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jsw_81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-05 01:38 PM
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In Theocracy They Trust (Religious Right Alert!)
April 11, 2005 | According to David Gibbs, the attorney for Terri Schiavo's parents, Terri sobbed in her mother's arms after the courts condemned her to death. "Terri Schiavo was as alive as any person sitting here," he said. "Anything you saw on the videos, multiply times two hundred. I mean completely animated, completely responsive, desperately trying to talk." Schiavo, said Gibbs, would struggle to repeat the word "love" after her mother, and managed to get out something like "loooo."

Gibbs was speaking to a banquet of religious right activists and conservative operatives last Thursday, the first night of the Confronting the Judicial War on Faith conference in Washington. The 100 or so people in the audience had converged on the Washington Marriott from 25 states. Many cried as they listened.

"America needs a healing," Gibbs said, and the crowd murmured its assent. "We're sitting here desperately as a nation needing to adopt the heart of God … We're on the eve of a real major decision. Are we going to do it God's way, or are we going to head down the path of whatever these judges think is best? Terri was alive. The courts killed her. The courts killed her in a barbaric fashion. Others are already facing and will face a similar fate if we don't do something."

Conservatives convened at the two-day conference to figure out what that something should be. The event was remarkable in bringing together lawmakers and Capitol Hill staffers with unabashed theocrats. Rep. Todd Akin, R-Mo., shared the stage with prominent adherents of Christian Reconstructionism, a Calvinist doctrine that calls for the subordination of American civil law to biblical law.

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2005/04/11/judicial_conference/index.html
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-05 01:40 PM
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1. And so it continues...n/t
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-05 01:41 PM
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2. Oh. my. God.
How can somebody lie like that?

How can people be gullible enough to believe him?

How come nobody stood and challenged him on his lies?

This is un. accept. able.

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grumpy old fart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-05 01:43 PM
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3. and wouldn't ya know, they forgot the video camera, darn it!
Edited on Mon Apr-11-05 01:43 PM by grumpy old fart
what a load of crap. I'm surprised they didn't see her rise from the bed upon her death in a blaze of light in the arms of angels....geez
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flamin lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-05 01:43 PM
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4. The really scary part is that the entire world is going through
a religious conversion to fundamentalism. Not just the Muslims, but the Christians of all kinds. 57% of Americans believe the Biblical version of creation.

I don't mean to cast aspersions on belivers, I've been there and done that, but this scares the shit out of me.
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grumpy old fart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-05 01:46 PM
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5. 57%? Really? Damn, that is scary.
What are the numbers on belief in Santa? Easter Bunny? The Divine right of Bush?
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flamin lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-05 01:55 PM
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8. Read it and weep . . . or quake in fear . . .
NBC News Poll conducted by the polling organizations of Peter Hart (D) and Bill McInturff (R). March 8-10, 2005. N=800 adults nationwide. MoE ± 3.5.

"Which do you think is more likely to actually be the explanation for the origin of human life on Earth: evolution or the biblical account of creation?" Asked of those who answered "Biblical account": "And by this do you mean that God created the world in six days and rested on the seventh as described in the Book of Genesis, or that God was a divine presence in the formation of the universe?"

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Percent %
Evolution 33
Biblical account 57
Created in six days 44
Divine presence 13

None of the above (vol.) 3
Unsure 7
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-05 01:47 PM
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6. We're in deep trouble if people are so obsessed with their religion
that they can't recognize U.S. law and ignorantly and stubbornly insist that the rule of their pastor, church, or bible supercedes the law of the country as tested and interpeted by many levels of judges.

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jsw_81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-05 01:54 PM
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7. No kidding
It was one thing when these lunatics were out of power, but now that they're running the show we're all in deep trouble. Moderate Republicans and indpendents really need to read these types of articles before it's too late.
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flamin lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-05 01:56 PM
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9. Yeah, people like that fly airplanes into buildings . . . n/t
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Tux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-05 02:17 PM
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11. I know some Christians
Who think that whatever thier minister says is the workd of god and can't be questioned.

Reminds me, did god marry Adam and Eve in the Bible?
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flamin lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-05 02:42 PM
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12. That would make them a Shia Christian . . .
The Shia believe that the Quran is interpreted by scholars. The Suni revere the Quran as the souce of faith. Kinda like the Christian sects that believe the Bible is the inerrant word of God vs those who rely on ministers/priests etc to interpret the word of God.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 12:42 PM
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15. It's a bit more complex than that....
Read up on Islam. & Christianity.
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NAO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-05 02:08 PM
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10. Links and Articles on Dominionism
Radical Fundamentalist Clerics such as Falwell, Dobson et al are not merely medieval throwbacks or misguided religious hacks. They are part of a well organized subversionary movement known as "Dominionism". Dominionism constitutes a serious threat to American Democracy. These Radical Clerics (Robertson, Dobson, Falwell, etc.) are planning and executing a coup to gradually replace the free, secular democratic society of the United States with a Theocracy.

It is critical that people become aware of the extreme agenda these people have for the United States and ultimately for the world. The results of the 2004 election were not a fluke or something that was drummed up over a period of months. It has been in planning for over 20 years, and what we are seeing now is, in the words of Katherine Yurica, "the swift advance of a planned coup".

The articles below are critical for understanding the Dominionist movement and for realizing how real and how detailed their plans are, and how far they have come toward achieving their goals.

The Swift Advance of a Planned Coup: Conquering by Stealth and Deception - How the Dominionists Are Succeeding in Their Quest for National Control and World Power
http://www.yuricareport.com/Dominionism/TheSwiftAdvanceOfaPlannedCoup.htm

The Despoiling of America: How George W. Bush became the head of the new American Dominionist Church/State
http://www.yuricareport.com/Dominionism/TheDespoilingOfAmerica.htm

Video on the Christian Reconstructionist Dominionist Theocratic Agenda
http://www.theocracywatch.org/av/video_dominion.ram

The Rise of the Religious Right in the Republican Party
a public information project from TheocracyWatch.org

http://www.theocracywatch.org

The Yurica Report

http://www.yuricareport.com
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jsw_81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 12:18 PM
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13. Bump
...to the top.
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Benno Donating Member (78 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 12:30 PM
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14. Nuts!
kick
:kick:
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-12-05 01:00 PM
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16. Keep those legal fees from the Schlinder's backers coming in!
YOU NECROPHILIAC!

:headbang:
rocknation
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