12 NOON C-Span: Frist will attempt 'NUCLEAR OPTION' re: Filibuster

[chomskysright]

Will it happen?


It could come as soon as tomorrow or Tuesday. Vice President Cheney could end the filibuster in a devious way. A vote will be called to confirm William Myers <http://www.independentjudiciary.com/nominees/nominee.cfm?NomineeID=76>


for the U.S. Court of Appeals, 9th Circuit. Cheney might declare a filibuster unconstitutional. To read about the possible scenario go to: <http://thenexthurrah.typepad.com/the_next_hurrah/2005/03/nuclear_option_.html>
If Cheney and his friends on the theocratic right in the U.S. Senate succeed, then Democrats and moderate Republicans will have lost the only leverage left in the U.S. Senate. The Supreme Court is at stake.
Cheney will have pulled off a coup, and very few people will have known it happened! We must not let Cheney take away the filibuster. If he gets away with it, we need to get a million people to the streets of DC quickly and spontaneously! We should shut down the city until the Senate re-instates the filibuster.
People may not understand what happened with Cheney and the filibuster, but millions of people understand something is deeply wrong in Washington. If the word gets out through grass roots organizations, blogs, the press, etc. I predict a million people will show up.
This action must have two components: it must be non-violent, and it must have a specific goal - to reinstate the filibuster - with an understanding that we will go home when our goal is reached.
But then, maybe the theocratic right will not succeed with their so-called nuclear option and we can all stay home and work on our spring gardens.
Joan Bokaer
Founder, TheocracyWatch

[ComerPerro]

1. Shh! I'm watching the Michael Jackson Trial

and analysis of the coverage of the Pope's death.

[chomskysright]

2. a possible faxed letter to Congress person:

PRESERVE THE FILIBUSTER


MONDAY, APRIL 4, 2005 AT 12 NOON ON C-SPAN, WE WILL BE PAYING ATTENTION TO:

WHO SUPPORTS THIS END OF THE FILIBUSTER:

WHO WISHES TO CURTAIL DISCUSSIONS WITHIN CONGRESS

WHO CARES NOT A WIT ABOUT CITIZENS CHOOSING AS ASSOCIATED WITH THEIR CONGRESS-PERSON



We already note how the matter is ‘stacked.’

PLEASE DO NOT VOTE TO END THE FILIBUSTER.

Sincerely,

12:00 pm
0:45 (est.) LIVE
News Conference
Judicial Nominations
Committee for Justice
Washington, District of Columbia (United States)
Keene, David, Chairman, American Conservative Union
Bauer, Gary, President, American Values
Gray, C. Boyden, Chairman, Committee for Justice
Norquist, Grover, Chairman, Ronald Reagan Legacy Project
A coalition of conservative groups will announce their support for Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist's effort to end filibusters on judicial nominations.

[Tux]

3. Well

This is what we get for letting Republicians force abortion and gay amrriage into the debates. Christian theocracy is the only a few months away. After that, we're all dead.

I'd like to thank all Christians for misunderstanding that the day of judgement is end of the world instead of what Jesus said: death. Also, I thank the liberal Christians for not doing a damn thing.

[Clark2008]

4. I think liberal Christians are doing something, but their voices

aren't being heard in the corporate media.
Like a tree falling in the forest with no logoed camera there to film it.

[Robbien]

5. Freeperville has been organizing a DC trip for the past month now

They have been fund raising and recruiting for the "protest liberal activist judges" trip on April 7th.

They knew about this action of Delay's thirty days ago. FR is the brownshirt arm of the rabid right congresscritters.

[Erika]

6. What will be, will be

Let the fundamentalists GOP push their Taliban nature and see what the backlash is.

[paineinthearse]

7. This ties with the daily CSPAN schedule/analysis

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1703470

1. CSPAN
12:00 pm
0:45 (est.) LIVE
News Conference
Judicial Nominations
Committee for Justice
Washington, District of Columbia (United States)
Keene, David, Chairman, American Conservative Union
Bauer, Gary, President, American Values
Gray, C. Boyden, Chairman, Committee for Justice
Norquist, Grover, Chairman, Ronald Reagan Legacy Project
A coalition of conservative groups will announce their support for Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist's effort to end filibusters on judicial nominations.

2. CSPAN2
02:00 pm LIVE
Senate Proceeding
Senate Session
U.S. Senate

[jefferson_dem]

22. Now there's a circle jerk of scum if i've ever seen one. YUK!

:puke: Keene, Bauer, C. Boyden Gray, Norquist.

[paineinthearse]

8. I don't understand the statement

"The Supreme Court is at stake." Perhaps you mean the Senate is at stake?

Current Senate rules set the fillibuster override at 60. To change the rules would require a vote of the entire Senate. The 60 vote limit cannot be over-ridden by Cheney, as president of the Senate, unilatterally.

Even if Cheney were to try such a move, the minority could take the unprecidented step of sueing the president of the Senate in federal court.

[BlueEyedSon]

9. They will use the end of the filibuster to "pack the courts" nt

[tritsofme]

10. Do you think a federal court would even hear the case?

Don't they usually just say the Congress can make their own rules in cases like this?

[Cell Whitman]

11. I think this is what she means

Joan Bokaer - I believe in her audio/video talks at her site,

http://www.theocracywatch.org/

when asked if she believes we are now a theocracy or becoming one, she says that the only piece missing is the Supreme Court.

Well, I wonder if a million folks will realize what this means enough to do as she suggests? It's game set match for the theopods if they get away with it.

They're Moon's theocratic political army. They no longer have the ability to see where their actions are taking us. There leaders do, but they are fat, dumb, and fascist - and don't give a hoot about the rest of the world, so they cough our nation up to Moon and the theocrats. imho...



http://cellwhitman.blogspot.com/

[okieinpain]

12. well if we need action by the people, then it's a done deal.

the people won't give a shit until the supreme's try and shutdown oc, for being too racy.

[genius]

13. Technically they need 60 votes to change the rule. They don't care about

technicalities. Our guys should make a statement by going home if they end the filibuster.

[GreenPoet64]

18. Did I read that they will change the rule on how to change the rule?

In other words they will change the rule from a 60 vote requirement to a 57 vote requirement? I need clarification on this too.

Also, as it stands now, can we filibuster a radical right wing nomination to the supreme court?

In nuking the filibuster is this a guarantee that the Supreme Court will be stacked with right wing judges before bush is out of office?

If so, have we got the word out to women about what this means in terms of reproductive rights?

[GreenPoet64]

14. I'm in CA--where can I get in touch with someone organizing . . .

a demonstration?

[oxbow]

15. If they try this, Reid said he'd shut down the senate on them

They still need the Dems around, atleast for now. Its a risky trick, but it looks like it might very well happen. Everybody call your Senator first thing tomorrow and tell them what's what.

EDIT: The vote on this is gonna be a real squeaker. It might even come down to 1 vote. We can do this y'all. Nothing is more important than this battle in the immediate future. We can get rid of senators and presidents, we can mend relationships with our foreign allies. Judges are for life, though. Who gets the main seats will determine the direction our country takes for decades to come.

[fujiyama]

16. It would be amazing

if he did it. It would be a ballsy move.

The only potential problem is a backlash similar to what happened in '95 when Gingrich shut down congress. Clinton blamed it on them and it helped the Dems.

[oxbow]

17. He won't shut down the government

just non-crucial business in the senate. I think it will be a good thing, will get some media spotlights on the issue at the least.

[Skip Intro]

20. I don't see a backlash

we wouldn't be stopping the government, we'd be trying with all our might to stop the threat to our government.

People will see it if we just show them. Bush wants to kill Social Security. Democrats want to save it. If its not clear to some people, we need to make it clear.

We are the ones fighting for you, the republicans have taken your money and tossed you aside, squeezing every last dollar from you as they ride.

Republicans are killing this coutnry.

I think a majority of people that see politics, government, see that.

Vote for Demcorats, or see rock bottom. You know.

No backlash from the people, at least.

[radfringe]

21. No backlash from the people, at least.

I agree -- as a general "outrage" there won't be any..

ask "joe six-pack" about a filibuster and the likely response would be "a..filly-buster? something to do with horses?..."

[jefferson_dem]

23. Yeah, i wonder how Fristy's gonna like running for pres after having

served as leader of the "legislation dead on arrival" Senate.

[sandnsea]

19. Uhm, yeah

That's kind of why I asked people to get out on the streets. Still time to fax and phone call. Emails and online petitions aren't enough.

http://www.lightupthedarkness.org/blog/default.asp?view=plink&id=661

[radfringe]

24. Headlines sometime this week: SENATE NUKED

[adigal]

25. Let them do it...Reid will shut the Senate down

so no more immoral business can come out of that chamber.

[Virginian]

26. All channels are on Pope,

It seems like a sneaky thing to do while all the medial is focused on a service for the Pope.
I am surprised C-SPAN can still pick up what is going on in Washington. Nuclear option vote won't get any play on the networks or cable news.

[rodeodance]

27. except C-span

[Helga Scow Stern]

28. Can't find RW press conference briefing on C-Span

except * going on about the Pope.

[bettyellen]

29. Most Important Republican Senators to call/ fax Email.....

They're on the fence and the focus of intensive lobbying:

Olympia J. Snowe and Susan Collins of Maine
Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania
John McCain of Arizona,
Chuck Hagel of Nebraska
Lincoln Chafee of Rhode Island
John W. Warner of Virginia.

Can somebody add link for contact info.
I have to go out now.

thanks!

[bettyellen]

30. Here's the contact info to blast them all:

If someone would like to copy them over into the appropriate state's forums, that would be great.
because i really got to go.

Chafee, Lincoln - (R - RI)
141A RUSSELL SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510
[phone]

Web Form: chafee.senate.gov/webform.htm

Collins, Susan - (R - ME)
461 DIRKSEN SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510
[phone]

Web Form: collins.senate.gov/low/contactemail.htm

Hagel, Chuck - (R - NE)
Class II
248 RUSSELL SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510
[phone]

Web Form: hagel.senate.gov/index.cfm?FuseAction=Offices.Contact


McCain, John - (R - AZ)
Class III
241 RUSSELL SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510
[phone]

Web Form: mccain.senate.gov/index.cfm?fuseaction=Contact.Home


Snowe, Olympia - (R - ME)
Class I
154 RUSSELL SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510
[phone]

E-mail: [e-mail]

Specter, Arlen - (R - PA)
Class III
711 HART SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510
[phone]

E-mail: [e-mail]


Warner, John - (R - VA)
Class II
225 RUSSELL SENATE OFFICE BUILDING WASHINGTON DC 20510
[phone]

Web Form: warner.senate.gov/contact/contactme.cfm

Senator Thad Cochran (R- MS)
202-224-5054
202-224-9450
http://cochran.senate.gov/contact.htm

Senator John Sununu (R- NH)
202-224-2841
202-228-4131
[e-mail]

George V. Voinovich of Ohio
Senator George Voinovich (R- OH)
202-224-3353
202-228-1382
http://voinovich.senate.gov/contact/index.htm