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mahina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 10:13 PM
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"Christian" coalition urges opposition to clean campaign funding bill
Wow, these folks are just awful. Warning, the following text may induce revulsion.

From the Hawaii "Christian" coalition website: http://www.hi-christian.com/HCC%20Oppose%20Clean%20Elections.htm
"The Hawaii Christian Coalition OPPOSES election reform legislation (H.B. 1713 & S.B. 1689) known as "Clean Elections", sponsored by the lobbying group Clean Elections Hawaii. This type of public campaign financing will not attract better candidates, let alone improve our elections system. If reform legislation ever promised voters one thing but would deliver the opposite, Clean Elections is it. To clean up politics and stop corruption, contact your state Senator and Representative and urge them to vote NO on this extremely deceptive legislation, apparently designed for electing radical anti-family value single-issue candidates.

Clean Elections is long on rhetoric but fails to deliver reform. Instead, it creates bigger problems rather than solutions. Campaigns should not be 100 percent funded by the taxpayer. Nor should tax dollars be used to fund the campaigns of candidates who believe strongly in passing more laws promoting abortion, physician-assisted suicide, same-sex marriage, or other anti-family legislation. It would be immoral for Christians to donate money or vote for anti-family value candidates. Giving away Christian tax-dollars to radical single-issue candidates will prove unconstitutional. "

says them. When are they going to come out against homelessness, or poverty, or hunger? Who decided that the Christian people in this country should care most about whether gay people settle down and ending unwanted pregnancies before any other social concern?

These people baffle me. I hope our legislators figure out that they are being bleated at by mislead sheep. What would the REAL shepherd have to say? And this season of all seasons, have these people no shame at all?

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mahina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 10:15 PM
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1. To learn about our clean elections bill,
check out the website: http://www.cleanelectionshawaii.org
Last time I read it it was an awesome bill.

I hope the fake Christians don't cause us to abort this good measure.
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Tux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 10:20 PM
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2. OK
It would be immoral for Christians to donate money or vote for anti-family value candidates. But it's OK to send kids to thier deaths in another nation?

When are they going to come out against homelessness, or poverty, or hunger? Once the televangelicals stop using guilt to sucker money from people.

I hope our legislators figure out that they are being bleated at by mislead sheep. Too late. The sheep have spoken.

have these people no shame at all? Hell no. Republicians and Evangelicals never had it in the first place.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 10:54 PM
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3. Hope you get the Clean Elections. We have 'em here in Maine, and I love
'em but the Righties are forever trying to kill them off.
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mahina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 04:25 PM
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5. What is it with these people anyway?
Who gave them the right to decide priorities for Christians?

But I forgot, the agressor defines the context of the battle.

Was there ever anyone at this group's ascendence who asked - WTF, this is wrong?

How do we take back the Churches? Maybe individual conversations with pastors all over the country, telling them we are troubled by the direction taken and wish to address other social concerns than abortion and gays settling down. Like poverty and homelessness, like loss of compassion?

WWJD, baby?
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 02:22 PM
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4. Bumping. In honor of Paul Wellstone
who wrote the first Clean Elections bill with John Kerry..... even though most of the Senate ignored it, some smart states like Maine adapted it for their citizens.
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mahina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 04:26 PM
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6. EO!
He was the man. St. Paul, watch over us all. Guide and protect us through the dark night of the Republicans.
I am only kidding a little.
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