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priller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 01:25 AM
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I'm LOVIN' these poll numbers --
From KOS, a new poll by CBS news:

Congress Job Approval ------

Approve 34 (41)
Disapprove 49 (44)


Bush Approval Ratings ------

Approve 43 (49)


Should Congress and the President be involved in the Schiavo matter? ------

Yes 13
No 82


Even Bush's approval numbers on Iraq have gone down from 45 to 39 in the last month.

As Kos says, this Schiavo thing has been a disaster for the GOP.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 01:27 AM
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1. We just may be seeing the final tipping point
also Gingwritch horrified the people once, this may be another one of those moments
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 01:31 AM
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2. As grotesque as this case is,
I'm hoping the religious loons in the Republican party hang themselves.

And I hope the Democrats who haven't sold out will just keep handing them the rope--and NOT let the American public forget this in 2006, 2008, and beyond.
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LuminousX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 10:54 AM
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19. This is the ultimate wedge issue against the right
Religious Whackos want to mandate every aspect of our lives, from dietary laws to style of dress. True Conservatives have no interest in getting that involved in people's lives and honestly want a government that isn't dictating to adults how they should live their lives.

The problem with other potential wedge issues like sexuality, freedom of speech, and right to privacy is there are sometimes strong personal factors that come into play. What we are talking about now is a Right to Die issue and it hits home with a lot of people. Many families have had relatives in hospice care and have had to make that decision to terminate life support and allow their family member to peacefully pass on. The act isn't murder, as the Whacko Religious Right seem to want to make people believe, it is an act of love.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 10:56 AM
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20. This Also Makes Me Remember Christopher Reeves.
may he rest in peace.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 01:39 AM
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3. SWEET! Isn't it! Hate to say it, but Buchanan said he'd be in low 40's.
The irony is that these were probably his numbers at election day. I'm in VA and I don't know anybody who has changed their mind on the guy and they were all against him to start. Rig, rigged, really rigged.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 10:26 AM
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17. But....but.....
what about the mandate? And all that political capital * earned? :puke:
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 11:08 PM
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22. Turned into a "Man" "Date", if you know what I mean.
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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 01:41 AM
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4. Let this be the final tipping point.
PLEEAZE
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siteleader Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 01:54 AM
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5. Being a lame duck president ...
His poll numbers mean less to him than to the Senate and house members that are coming up for re election in two years. That's where a lot of the pressure will come from with these low numbers.
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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 01:57 AM
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7. Well. There is also the next Republican candidate for President.
They will either benefit or suffer based on how these next four years pan out.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 11:10 PM
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23. How about we call him a "really lame" duck president.
:hi:
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 01:55 AM
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6. yes, I believe, I believe, I believe!!!
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 01:57 AM
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8. I keep hoping and praying too
I hope everyday for something so we can get our country on the right track and help the people who NEED it. Everyday there seems to be something else though that makes me wanna go crazy. From seeing the poll numbers to hearing other people's encounters here maybe it could happen. :shrug:
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 06:44 AM
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9. can you say "booga-booga"?


place your bets -- when is the next "terralert"?
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 07:33 AM
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10. i wonder if the majority of Americans even know the GOP controls congress
that's the problem. Attaching republicans to the idiocy of congress.

When consistently supported by Dems who acting more cowed than a beaten-wife, it becomes harder to point the finger at just one party for this craziness.

Another missed opportunity. There will be no backlash against the GOP for this. The elections are over a year away. This case will be long forgotten by then.
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Azathoth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 08:36 AM
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11. Between the Schiavo fiasco and the Social Security disaster
the GOP has managed to alienate a lot of people. The bulk of the American people are well aware that these guys fully control the white house, the congress, and the supreme court, and they still are so incompetent that they can't get anything done except pander to far-out fundies and put money in the pockets of wealthy CEOs. The mid-90's GOP tide was already beginning to ebb by the 2000 election; 9/11 (and Operation Iraqi Quagmire to a lesser extent) gave them a boost in popularity, but by now they have managed to completely piss that away. They've already hit their high-water mark, and there's no place for them to go but down. It's just a question of whether or not the Democrats can step up and formulate a strong and convincing opposition message.
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 08:43 AM
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12. You got that right. Only problem is....
there is NO opposition message, other than more of the same with just slightly different beneficiaries.

And if there was any sort of organized opposition, there is no media to shout it out.

Sorry, I just don't see it coming from the current party structure.

It's time.
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 08:46 AM
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13. political capital account toon
http://radfringe.tripod.com/

although given this recent poll - I should redo the toon to show it as a Poltical Capital Check bouncing...
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DemocracyInaction Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 08:56 AM
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14. This means nothing UNLESS
..the Dems take the ball and start running with IT!!! Goddamn it...the time is now. The backdrop of abuse of power is being dragged onto the national stage with a bunch of fake bastard repubs standing in front of it. BUT it takes someone to stand up in the crowd and yell "LOOK WHAT THE BASTARDS ARE DOING TO US" or Americans will not even notice the backdrop. If we don't step in where there is this void, the public will forget us, as usual, come the next election and vote for the repubs again and again and again.
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trogdor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 09:14 AM
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15. A day late and a dollar short.
It would have been nice to have this many people wake the hell up five months ago. It doesn't matter anymore.
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 10:22 AM
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16. I would be loving this, if I wasn't still so scared
Edited on Thu Mar-24-05 10:30 AM by BlueIris
by how low that percentage is and the likelihood of a Bush "retaliation" to try to get a "rally round the leader" response and hopefully a popularity boost as a result. There's only one thing I believe might save us--a massive drop within a very short period of time. Like, within the space of three weeks (though I almost think it would have to be less) if his numbers somehow just tanked, right down to a Jimmy Carter or Governer Davis-style 20%. Then, I guess it's remotely possible that the chances Bush, Cheney, Rove, et. al, would "try" something would be a little lower. At that point, they might just decide that it would be safer to discredit Dems though '06 and '08, work on ways to keep their stranglehold on the voting machines and the media so they can steal the next election. Except, then I remember that the neo-cons are a wee bit insane, and that it's unlikely the media would ever report a drop in approval that drastic, and I get nervous again.
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Jersey Ginny Donating Member (549 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 01:02 AM
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26. It's time for an Orange alert!
We haven't had one of those in a while. That's what the Repukes need. Or, more ominously, it's time to start ignoring intelligence data again.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 10:30 AM
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18. Be Afraid, Be VERY Afraid
With numbers like this going into the tank, they will think they have to do something drastic so people will rally behind the monkey...Use your imagination...
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 12:09 AM
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24. Yub. Nukes
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rniel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-24-05 10:58 AM
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21. Oh great now we'll be served up another attack
Anytime his poll numbers go down. Watch Out!!
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 12:23 AM
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25. Actually this is a DANGEROUS time...when Chimpy's numbers are down...
Edited on Fri Mar-25-05 12:24 AM by zulchzulu
We have seen what the Chimp has done or LET HAPPEN when his poll numbers were down.

This Schiavo thing was nothing more than a fire drill to see if all the parts were working with the control of the corporate media echo chamber.

It's working perfectly.

As quickly as these poll numbers go down on Chimpy and The Fellas, they have plenty of fear and fake news to change all that on a dime.

Can you say "orange alert"?

Batton down the hatches.


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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-25-05 01:14 AM
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27. it's going to be interesting to watch them back peddle from this
if the thugs drop off the fundamentalist xtians on this issue to save political face (do damage control with those numbers), there is going to be so much howling by the fxtians over the 'betrayal'. Could it split their extreme element from the mainstream of their party? Should be fun to watch it all fall out.
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