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Hard Attack Donating Member (264 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-05 03:52 PM
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I Am Calling Florida Resorts saying 'I'm Not Going to Florida'
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I am calling Florida resorts and Hotels and telling them that My Wife and I will NOT BE VACATIONING IN FLORIDA THIS YEAR.

We will not go to a state where we could get hurt, and wind up in a situation like Terry Shiavo, and have the State's Political Leaders take control of our Family Wishes not to be kept alive on machines, in the horrific event we were to get hurt in Florida.

Also, Myself being a Heart Patient, I could not, and will not go there ever again, for If the same were to happen to me, the State Obviously is going to take control of myself, and tell my wife 'too bad'.

I am not going to suggest that any of you out there start calling resorts and hotels, saying the same thing, or with different views, but if you do, let it be on your own will, not mine.

Thanks!
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-05 03:56 PM
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1. Actually, Florida's Courts ruled that the feeding tube should be removed
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Hard Attack Donating Member (264 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-05 04:00 PM
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5. I'm still calling all of the resorts in Orlando, because this apparently
has become a very important issue for Jeb Bush and I think the Managers of these Hotels and resorts should be aware that what Jeb is doing is Actually Scaring people from going down there.

I am serious, this is no joke, what, it would take 10 years for my wife to be going through the pain that she would have to endure if something like this happened to me down there and these loonies would force that tube into me against her and my wishes, please, forgetta 'bout it.
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Red State Rebel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-05 04:04 PM
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9. How absurd, all you need is a WRITTEN living will
and or WRITTEN advanced directives. That is what the difference is in this case. Terri never had put anything in writing.
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Hard Attack Donating Member (264 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-05 04:11 PM
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11. Obsurd you say, well how many 30 year olds do you know
have a written will?

If someones wife or kids where in a car accident down there and wound up like this, whats going to happen, Jeb Bush to the rescue after some nurse runs to her local church and lies about the fate of someones loved one who is in the shape of Terri Shiavo?

But I do stand corrected, It is not just this year that I am not going down there, it will be YEARS before I ever go down there again.
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Red State Rebel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-05 04:22 PM
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13. Everyone over 18 should have a living will - different from a will.
Edited on Wed Mar-23-05 04:24 PM by Red State Rebel
Tho those come in handy too. I filled out my first living will in my early 20's back when the very first lawsuit over a case like this happened. Google Karen Ann Quinlan.
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Goldmund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-05 03:58 PM
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2. You showed those hotel receptionists!
Edited on Wed Mar-23-05 03:58 PM by Goldmund
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Hard Attack Donating Member (264 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-05 04:02 PM
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6. The Hotel Receptionists, have actually been recieving other calls
with the same message I am saying.

This is real, I am not going down there, Jeb Bush is out of his mind
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-05 06:02 PM
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30. No kidding? Glad to hear it!
Pressure must be applied all over the place, in every way, shape, and form imaginable.
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Southsideirish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-05 03:59 PM
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3. On a related note - as a heart patient, could you move or re-locate
to another part of the country or do you always feel you have to be within emergency range of your own Dr. and hospital? I ask because we are thinking about moving to a town about 13 hrs. drive away from where we live now but I am a teensy bit afraid to do so considering the Dr. angle.
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-05 03:59 PM
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4. Considering that it was Congress that stepped in...
Staying out of Florida won't do you any good.

And penalizing the travel industry seems a tad misguided. They had nothing to do with this case.
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Hard Attack Donating Member (264 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-05 04:04 PM
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7. Sorry, I disagree, because the Travel Industry Depends
on Travelers, and the Travel Industry like other Industries are worried about who is elected.

When Businesses get hurt, or face the threat of losing customers because of what Politicians do, Politicians get phone calls from their current, future, or former campaign contributors.

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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-05 04:16 PM
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12. Obviously, you haven't paid much attention to this case.
Florida had nothing to do with it. In fact, the Florida courts have consistently sided with Michael Schaivo's position.

Blaming them for something that Congress - that would be the United States Congress, by the way - did is silly.

If you're looking for someone to blame, start with Congress.

Blame DeLay. I guess that means you'll need to boycott Texas.

And, blame Frist. There goes Tennessee.
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Hard Attack Donating Member (264 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-05 04:28 PM
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14. Not for nothing, I've never thought of Texas as a Vacation Spot
.. and Tennessee, well, I am sure it is a nice place, but to visit on Vacation, hmmmm... maybe not, uhmmm, definitely not.

Terry Shiavo is in Florida, the Governor of Florida just made a public press conference and suggested the State of Florida take over the Custody of Terry Shiavo.

Now, you can go boycott Texas Tourism, I never had Texas on my list of places to visit in my life, and I highly doubt it will ever make it on my list of places to go.

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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-05 05:09 PM
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16. So perhaps you should leave the United States, since
it was the politicians in the United States Congress who have prolonged this after the State of Florida ordered the feeding tube removed.
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Hard Attack Donating Member (264 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-05 05:23 PM
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18. Sorry, Maybe You Should Leave, I am sticking around
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You suggest I leave the United States? - hmmm, so lets see, I make a statement that 'I am NOT GOING to Florida', because of what is going on down there with the Governor, and you say I should leave America because it is Congress that is also in on this... hmmmmm.

Sorry, I am not running anywhere. I am here, and at this point, like I have stated before,
it is no longer 'United We Stand, Divided We Fall'....
It is Now - 'DIVIDED WE STAND, OR UNITED WE FALL'

Also, these Cornballs in Congress who got involved on this issue are all going to wind up regretting it when what they did will be used against them when they are up for re-election.

I am in New York, and I AM NOT GOING TO FLORIDA FOR VACATION THIS YEAR, OR THE NEXT YEAR, and as long as Jeb Bush is Governor there, I WILL NOT BE GOING THERE TO VACATION AT ALL!

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knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-05 04:04 PM
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8. Hit them in the wallet
If they suffer, they will tie it to Jebbie and the Florida GOP.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-05 05:29 PM
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20. ABSOLUTELY! Hey, Hard Attack, there's nothing wrong with your idea.
Maybe some here object to it. I don't. Stands have to be made. Battles have to be fought. And obviously there are MANY battlefronts, MANY strategies, MANY lines, means, and methods of attack.

I say GO FOR IT! If you want to make your opinion known that way, so much the better. FAR better than not weighing in AT ALL. Besides, it's even more gratifying to hear that your message isn't the only one like this that's getting sent. Enough of these and those "lowly" hotel receptionists will start to talk. One or more of them will feel compelled to bring this to the attention of his/her supervisor. If there's enough of it, that message may well get passed along farther up the food chain. Maybe to somebody's executive suite in the hotel's management. Maybe that management person rubs elbows with somebody in the chamber of commerce or other business leader or local industry person or media person, and the word will spread there. And if these people think they're gonna start feeling the heat for something some asinine person in Washington has done (I don't care WHATTHEFUCK state that person comes from - this is happening in FLORIDA, which for all intents and purposes makes Florida Ground-Zero). Word-of-mouth can be a powerful weapon. If these business/tourism-types think it'll be bad for business for these whackos to give their turf a bad name, they're not going to take that lying down.

Sometimes you have to apply heat in SEVERAL different places. It's not enough to fight tom delay in one arena. He must be engaged all over the map. He must face so many holes springing in his sea wall that he runs out of fingers to stick into them and plug them up. He needs to be kept so busy fighting off so many packs of baying hounds that he is totally hamstrung and thereby rendered impotent. Further, he will also be rendered political poison. Which means he'll soon be running out of allies. If he's kept too busy trying to plug holes in the dam, he won't be able to spend much time or energy strongarming people.

There are MANY ways to skin a cat, pardon the reference. We CANNOT afford to be a bunch of Johnny One-Notes. We CANNOT afford to put all our anti-delay eggs in one basket. I want to come at him with eggs in dozens, if not hundreds of baskets. He needs to be hit from EVERY DIRECTION AND DIMENSION IMAGINABLE. THIS one, too.

Go ahead with your strategy, Hard Attack. It's ALL to the good. Hell, at least you're doing SOMETHING. The only thing that doesn't do any good is to do nothing whatsoever.
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Hard Attack Donating Member (264 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-05 05:37 PM
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23. Calimary, I am glad you see Strategy, or is it Strategery?
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I called about 7 places this afternoon, Tomorrow Morning I will be back on the phones and call some more.

To my surprise, 1 location I called, the person had no idea of what was going on, she said she never pays attention to the news.
I complemented her on her ability to ignore all news, and told her if she keeps it up, she shouldn't be surprised when she is asked by her kids one day 'Mommy, what was it like to vote?'



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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-05 05:56 PM
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28. I'm tempted to make a couple of calls, myself.
Not that I was even considering spending my vacation dollars in a state like Florida. But if I somehow were, this would be enough to turn me off. If a tree falls in the forest and nobody's there to see it, what difference does it make, and what effect did it have? Indeed, does that tree even exist? People in Florida NEED TO BE SHOWN again and again that this crap not only won't be tolerated but also that the actions of a fanatical few are making them ALL look terrible. Damnation by association.

In fact, I think a similar strategy here ought to be applied to various vacation spots around Texas, particularly Sugarland. tom delay IS from there, and it's those darling folks who somehow see fit to keep sending him back to Congress. Perhaps they should feel the impact, also.
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-05 06:01 PM
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29. Congress would have never had an opportunity to step in
and pass an unconstitutional bill in the middle of the night if Jeb Bush hadn't acted in an unconstitutional manner previously and had her feeding tube reinserted.
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-05 04:08 PM
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10. Could you at least come down
And take a few back with you?

The traffic is insane. And some people driving, shouldn't have a license for a skateboard. But in all fairness, a lot of those are locals.
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-05 04:56 PM
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15. Well I admire your esprit du corps!
There once was a time, in the 80's that I thought of moving to Florida..but now with global warming..Oregon ain't so rainy anymore. SHHHH....

But..I have no intention to vacation in any Bush connected state in any remote near or far future. On principal, I think we should boycott Texas and Florida. Say NO to Bush states.

Works for me. I'm vengeful like that.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-05 05:34 PM
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22. Works for me, too. The kids wanted to go to Hawaii this year.
I told them I've changed my mind because both senators caved on the ANWR fiasco. I vote with my wallet. Further, my daughter had to travel through Georgia and will be coming back through Florida on her spring break school trip. I told her because those are red states, try not to spend any money while she waits to change planes.

Okay, go ahead and call it petty. But when it comes to spending, I'm supporting ONLY blue-state stuff, as much as possible. Do you reward the family dog for chewing up the furniture? Do you reward your kid's behavior when they willfully disobey? Do you reinforce bad behavior with rewards? I for one do not.
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-05 05:12 PM
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17. If you have a living will the point is moot
Everyone should have a living will.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-05 05:23 PM
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19. Say NO to Hawaii because both their Senators voted for ANWR drilling
Edited on Wed Mar-23-05 05:26 PM by ClarkUSA
No family vacations worth many thousands $$ to Florida or Hawaii. No New Orleans Mardi Gras because of Sen. Landrieu's pro-arctic drilling vote, too.



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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-05 05:31 PM
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21. You should just make out a will
give your wife power of Atty, and say do not keep you alive in a coma or PVS
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-05 05:39 PM
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24. YES. Certainly yes to this, too. It's a good defensive strategy.
But sometimes I find it necessary to play offense, too.

Besides, if these assholes have their way or feel encouraged in any way to continue with this crap, who's to say they won't try to strong-arm legislation that will eventually deprive you of the right to decide such things as when you wish to have the plug pulled? Who's to say they're not someday going to try to bigfoot that one, also? I, for one, wouldn't put it past them, and I'd be willing to bet some of the more hard-assed among them have already had discussions about how far they can push this in the name of the "'right' to 'life'." There. Is. No. Stopping. Some. Of. These. Fanatics.
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Hard Attack Donating Member (264 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-05 05:48 PM
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27. You Correctly Label them 'FANATICS'
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They are doing the same thing that religious fanatics do in the Middle East, they are using Religious views to condemn lawmakers and those who obey the law.

They are also going after people who are doing things against 'their personal religious views' and not respecting other peoples religious views.

It is as if we have an AMERICAN TALIBAN here in the United States of America.

I've said it before, and I will say it again, it is no longer 'UNITED WE STAND, DIVIDED WE FALL'....

IT IS NOW == *** DIVIDED WE STAND, OR UNITED WE FALL***
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Hard Attack Donating Member (264 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-05 05:44 PM
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25. COPS HAVE ARRESTED PRO TERRY SHIAVO SUPPORTERS
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CNN showed Video of Supporters of Terry Shiavo getting arrested, kids, 12,14, 15 year old kids.

Now the Religious Right are seeing the POLICE STATE THEY LIVE IN.

These supporters are now going to have to deal with getting an appearence ticket, perhaps a lawyer, and deal with POLICE STATE CRACKDOWNS on protesting.

And what was up with Bush's Statement saying that 'NO VIOLANCE IS NECCESSARY' or whatever he said denouncing violance, what THREATS ARE THESE RELIGIOUS FANATICS MAKING?



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OneTwentyoNine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-05 05:48 PM
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26. Where ever Randal Terry is, so go arrests. Maybe a shooting later on..
Edited on Wed Mar-23-05 06:00 PM by OneTwentyoNine
Those people that follow him are the most RW fanatical fuckers you'll ever see. Many of them will have relatives or even husband/wife that have NO idea they are protesting somewhere. One of his flock shot an abortion doctor here,Terry doesn't care.

Absolute lunatics all....
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