DLC tells what we stand for..while voting for the bankruptcy bill. Irony.

[madfloridian]

For this to come out today seems a little out of place. Their 3 points seem to say it all. Security, Opportunity, Responsibility...that is what we stand for they say.

They wish Howard Dean the best of luck. Then they proceed to present their values...one of which seems to be that turning out the base will not work.

All this rhetoric while they are setting up to screw the elderly, the ill, and disabled, and their caregivers...while catering to the large corporate donors by voting for the bankruptcy bill.

http://www.ndol.org/ndol_ci.cfm?kaid=127&subid=171&contentid=253206

SNIP.."We congratulate Gov. Howard Dean on his new job as chairman of the Democratic National Committee. He needs to raise hundreds of millions of dollars, hone the party's political machinery to rival the Republican juggernaut, and rebuild state parties, particularly in red states. That's a tall order, even for someone with Dean's energy and tenacity. We've had differences with Governor Dean in the past, but we wish him well in this endeavor. If he succeeds in building and funding our party, all Democrats will benefit.

In the end, the success of any national party chairman depends not on how well he does his job, but on whether his party wins the White House on his watch. The chairman's role is to be chief cheerleader for the party. But if Democrats are to win in 2008, we must be willing to take on a few basic problems that party headquarters is in no position to fix. A party gets only one chance every four years to define itself for the voters. That comes in the presidential nominating process, and that definition is determined by the party's presidential nominee and what he or she stands for. Ironically, the best thing a party chairman can do is to keep his head down and his nose to the grindstone, and give potential candidates a clear field to have that debate. Dean will do fine as long as he remembers the Hippocratic Oath: First, do no harm."

They are so wrong on when we define ourselves. We are already defining, and we are not going to wait until 2008 and let the nominee do it. Sorry, Al and Bruce. This is not just about presidential candidates anymore. It is about candidates at all levels. When you, sirs, caution Howard Dean to remain with his head down and nose to the grindstone......you are telling us to back off and let the nominees do their thing.

Howard Dean won't interfere in the nomination process, but we are the party...you are not. It is our right to speak and our right to be heard. You have no greater rights than we do...working together is one thing, but you are again warning us off by warning the party chair to do no harm.

The nominee does not define the party, we will be defining the nominee.

Oh, Al, a side note...building an opportunity society ....welcome to the opportunity you are espousing in the bankruptcy bill....allowing the ill and elderly and disabled to lose cars and homes. That is not my idea of opportunity.

[fertilizeonarbusto]

1. Everyone repeat after me

"Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck you, DLC"

[Pithy Cherub]

14. Rinse. Wash. Repeat....

The DLC:eyes: bringing joementum to everything they say and do...

[NYCGirl]

2. They also seem to be masters of understatement with this one:

We've had differences with Governor Dean in the past

:evilgrin:

[madfloridian]

3. Definite understatement.

:hi:

[madfloridian]

4. They are busy today...want Dems to not oppose recruiters on campus.

This DLC article today refers to Beinart's article a couple of days ago, about we are not strong enough on national security.
So, I heard Franken agree with Beinart on this issue...that we should not oppose recruiters on campus because we might look bad. DLC agrees.

In our state, they were coming to the junior colleges and having country western concerts...at one their theme was something like my "redneck girl." (not familiar with it)...I got this from a professor there.

I disagree with Beinart, Franken, and the DLC on this issue because a lot of profs live in my neighorhood, and I know how disruptive it can be.

http://www.ndol.org/ndol_ci.cfm?kaid=131&subid=192&contentid=253207

"This is a party problem, not a candidate problem. As Beinart put it: "Democrats have been alienated from the military since Vietnam... They need a generational strategy to repair the rift. Criticizing the Bush administration for failing to provide current and former troops and their families the medical and other benefits they deserve is a start. So is developing a cadre of national Democrats with real defense expertise -- something the party has often lacked since Sam Nunn left the Senate and Les Aspin the House -- so Democrats can speak the military language."

But, notes Beinart, Democrats are often accused of a simple "lack of respect for the military." And that's something we can and must lay to rest....."

Beinart starts from a false premise, that we must be poor in this area because they say we are...and the DLC picks up the theme. Why must we take up their mantras against us?

[madfloridian]

7. The more I think about the DLC quoting Beinart....the madder I am.

Beinart totally misrepresents us, and Al and Bruce agree with him. This is just not good.

[merbex]

15. If I am not mistaken, Beinart signed the latest PNAC call for the draft

I'm off to check now

[merbex]

16. Yup here it is

Letter to Congress on Increasing U.S. Ground Forces
January 28, 2005

Dear Senator Frist, Senator Reid, Speaker Hastert, and Representative Pelosi:

The United States military is too small for the responsibilities we are asking it to assume. Those responsibilities are real and important. They are not going away. The United States will not and should not become less engaged in the world in the years to come. But our national security, global peace and stability, and the defense and promotion of freedom in the post-9/11 world require a larger military force than we have today. The administration has unfortunately resisted increasing our ground forces to the size needed to meet today's (and tomorrow's) missions and challenges.

So we write to ask you and your colleagues in the legislative branch to take the steps necessary to increase substantially the size of the active duty Army and Marine Corps. While estimates vary about just how large an increase is required, and Congress will make its own determination as to size and structure, it is our judgment that we should aim for an increase in the active duty Army and Marine Corps, together, of at least 25,000 troops each year over the next several years.


Bienart's signature is the first to appear

[Bryn]

5. Amen!!

Your Fellow Floridian :)

[madfloridian]

6. Welcome to DU.

:hi:

Maybe someday we can change things here.

[AntiCoup2K4]

8. "First do no harm??" What a crock of shit...

...coming from treasonous pigfuckers who have done harm to this party for 20 years :grr:

[madfloridian]

9. And "chief cheerleader" is insulting.

I don't know how he takes it so graciously.

Wow, this has irritated me today.

[madfloridian]

10. "Party definition determined by the presidential nominee every 4 years."

That sentence is just not right. The party definition needs to be determined by local candidates, state candidates, all through the 4 year cycle. Al, you are wrong.

[Jesus Saves]

11. The DLC has outlived its usefulness

[AntiCoup2K4]

12. How do you outlive something you never had in the first place?

DLC apologists like to take the credit for electing Bill Clinton, but the fact is, with the mess that Reagan & Poppy made out of the economy, any Democrat nominee would have likely won in 1992. And Perot didn't hurt either. As for 1996, Bob Dole? The Pukes threw that one, kinda like.... oh well nevermind.... ;)

[gulfcoastliberal]

13. Hey, the DLC is the nexus of compassion...

For corporations, that is. Hey if you lack health insurance and something happens, too fucking bad. The hospitals will be happy to have you as an indentured servant, courtesy of the New Democrats who pimped this disgusting legislation as enthusiastically as the repukes.

[xchrom]

17. the politics of division practised by ''democrats''.

that's what the dlc is about.

they are doing some scrambling in light of dean's election to the dnc chair.

while still throwing out the message that ''leftists''{however that's defined by the dlc} are not welcome in the democratic party.

they are still convinced by their own arguments that soccer moms and dads are the future. who ever they are.

where i live, soccer moms and dads hate bushco and themiliary/industrial complex.
how does the dlc plan on reconciliing them with the supposed hawkish moms and dads in iowa?

no clear, concise marketable message by democrats{and that by definition is a message different from repukes} means another 4{0} years in the wilderness.

and i don't buy this every 4 year strategy either.
it seems to me that like the repukes in reagans time -- you have to hammer the message home every day.
and sometimes in some headline grabbing ways -- being shy, polite and retiring isn't going to get the big foot{control of congress and the senate} in the door.

[madfloridian]

18. Howard Dean is not the "chief cheerleader" for the party.

The more I thought about that the madder I got. Why don't they just say chief cook and bottle-washer, water boy. Whatever.

This is just as bad as the activist memos from May of 2003, where they called out the activists.

That is truly an insult from the DLC. I demand an apology.

:mad: :mad:

[Mandate My Ass]

19. slightly off topic but the DNC has nothing up about bankruptcy

I've checked their site every day this week to see if they'd post anything about the bill and what a bad piece of legislation it is.

NADA. Plenty on the budget and SS but nothing on the bill. It seems they're muzzling Dean on this issue.