Kerry or Gore in 08

[montana500]

Why?

three words:


not fresh meat.



The corporate MSM and right wing radio *want* fresh meat for 2008. It makes their smears have more punch, and their lies have more of an edge in effecting voters. In short, the character defining WONT WORK on people who have already been through the ringer.

I say the plan should be to turn back the Frankenstein's the right wing media created and run them again. Their smears and lies will be seen as childish, "old hat", and plain ignorant. Kerry and Gore could run unimpeded by the spin machines.

[davidinalameda]

1. they were horrible candidates the first time around

what makes you think they'd be any better the second

[pauliedee]

21. Kerry still the strongest democrat / Gore done

Hillary is selling out....I refuse to support her

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[marcologico]

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[FreedomAngel82]

41. I would go for Kerry

He's still fighting these people and I think it would surprise them if we had him come through. Gore hasn't been in the spotlight in a long time or doing anything and Hillary is too conservative and I don't know how she'd fight them. And now we have Dean as our chairman I think we could fight them back more fairly this time and he would let us and not like the DLC.

[davidinalameda]

50. no he's not

with the party moving to the right more and more every day, the strongest candidate is someone like Mark Warner or Evan Byah--one of the DLC clones

[murray hill farm]

2. Robert F. Kennedy jr?

i want a Kennedy...and i want Robert F. Kennedy jr! That name alone will revive the party...and win.

[pauliedee]

22. Kerry a better choice

[Radical Activist]

31. If the name doesn't do it, his message will

He's incredible. I hope he runs for office soon. Anyone who has the balls to say that 95% of the GOP and 75% of the Democrats are corrupted by corporate money needs to be elected NOW!

[FreedomAngel82]

42. I do like both Kennedy's

I've heard them both on radio and whatnot and they're great. I would go for them as well.

[marcologico]

44. Teddy for veep, RFK for AG. Like old times. Kerry/Kennedy in '08!

[RunningFromCongress]

40. I really like RFK Jr., but he has no stump speech ability w/ that voice

problem. I know it's a shitty thing to care about, but having fire in a speech is very important.

[marcologico]

45. On the radio he sounds great. They play his talks every fund drive,

I've heard 'em a million times. He's awesome.

[LiberalVoice]

3. And if they decided to...

....ooooh I dunno...Lie?

No one escapes their spin machine...Most americans are not online at places like DU finding out the facts. They are sitting in front of their TV's watching like zombies.

[Lone Pawn]

4. Or, rather, they would be remembered as the caricatures that were defeated

Instead, perhaps, we should learn to character define.

I wouldn't mind another Kerry or Gore run, though. Especially since Terra won't be as important this time.

[montana500]

7. hmmm....

"Instead, perhaps, we should learn to character define."


Impossible at this point in time. You need a megaphone. They have it, we don't. That's why I suggest running these guys back through.

[Radical Activist]

33. It saves Republicans the time of having to smear someone new.

People are already programed to believe that Gore and Kerry are dishonest flip-floppers. At least we know that the next nominee, no matter who it is, will be portrayed as a dishonest flip-flopper. We need to be smart enough to nominate someone who won't be so easily pegged that way.

[LiberalEsto]

5. Boxer or Hillary?

forget the old white guys, they're boring

[pauliedee]

23. Kerry a better choice for president

[pauliedee]

24. Kerry a better choice for president

[napi21]

6. Well, I don't want either of them.

I don't want a Senator either. There's just way too many past decisions that can be distorted.

[Sanity Claws]

8. I don't want either

Neither one represented the Democratic wing of the Democratic party. Nader's remark that there wasn't too much difference between the Repubs and Dems carried more than an element of truth.
I want a real Democrat this time --- maybe Boxer.

[montana500]

10. bullshit!

"Neither one represented the Democratic wing of the Democratic party. Nader's remark that there wasn't too much difference between the Repubs and Dems carried more than an element of truth. "

It was an absolute lie that PUT GWB IN OFFICE FOR 8 YEARS.

HOW DARE YOU spew this god damn lie again.

Gore and Bush are so far apart in policy and actions it's not even funny. I bet you voted for Nader in Florida.

[LittleClarkie]

16. Didn't Gore give a speech where he said just that

"Do you see a difference NOW?" or am I hallucinating?

[pauliedee]

Democrat better than repugs

you jackass!!! Nader a repug in disguise

[pauliedee]

25. Democrat better than repugs

you jackass!!! Nader a repug in disguise

[Sanity Claws]

30. Now I know why people avoid posting in this area

You call it a lie. Actually Dean came out and said he was representing the Democratic wing of the Democratic party because his views were not being expressed. He got a lot of grass roots support because he dared to distinguish himself from the Repubs in key areas, including the war. Are you saying that Dean spouted lies too?

[ldf]

36. why don't you answer the question?

gore = bush.

bush = gore.

we all know better. that POS green candidate knew better when he spewed the lie.

try your defeatist spin somewhere it will be appreciated.

dragging dean into it is just a diversion.

[AmericanDream]

9. They've had their chance

[emanymton]

11. I Am An ABB For A Long Time ...

but Kerry gave away the election when he could not stand for equal rights PERIOD. The people did not want to replace the shrub with a "Bush Lite."

If Kerry or Gore are all or the best the Dems have to offer, than why bother????

It is about equal rights!!


Bush Lied, People Died, Media Cheered.

[LittleClarkie]

12. Yes, I'd love to re-elect either one

Both have the "I told you so" on their side as well.

Gore with the "lockbox" and Kerry on everything from homeland defense to the war and Social Security.

[politicasista]

17. Me too

Gore got screwed over big time here in TN.

[pauliedee]

26. Kerry stronger than Gore or Clinton

[bowens43]

13. Kerry and Gore are losers.

If they couldn't beat the idiot what makes you think that they could beat a real republican candidate ?

[politicasista]

18. Who do you suggest then?

[Ladyhawk]

14. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

No.

P.S. No.

[wildmanj]

15. kerry or gore

short answer----never---for some reason democrats love a loser--kerry is basically like bush and al gore just quit after he had won

[LittleClarkie]

19. Oh, does Bush believe in clean air too

or comprehensive health care?

or actually supporting the troops, with better benifits for their families and other things?

Does Bush secretly want Rummy to resign too?

Is Bush sorry they went to Iraq, and want to go back to Afghanistan?

Does Kerry secretly support missile defense over being alert to terrorism.

Does Kerry secretly want to gut Social Security?

Goodness, I can hardly tell the difference between the two, though I've never seen a tall, long-faced chimp before.

[politicasista]

20. Stop hating on Gore and Kerry

You're just mad cause your man didn't win.

[pauliedee]

27. Kerry strikes fear in the GOP

still fighting them ....Hillary and Gore are afraid of them

[mandyky]

28. I say we start working on smears for Frist, Hagel, Santorum and any

possible GOP candidates for 08. Why let them take the offensive?
It's about time Dems played Hardball, and threw the first punches instead of playing nicey nice! I want a Dem Prez before I die, for chrissakes!!

[LSparkle]

29. Yeah! Pre-emptive strikes on all 3!

Frist's family owns HMOs where ... ABORTIONS are performed! Santorum is ... well, sleazy and self-righteous. Hagel might be more difficult to attack but we've got several years.

[mandyky]

32. Hagel owns someof those BBV machines

doesn't he?

[LSparkle]

34. Oh yes he does

Now THAT's something that we can capitalize on.

[mandyky]

35. Don't forget to triply impugne Condi's character and truth telling

disability.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

38. Gore, maybe. Kerry, no way.

Gore has apparently shaken himself loose from the DLC/Clinton handcuffs. Kerry has wounded himself with his vote for the war and his pablum campaign of pandering to the right.

[Clarkie1]

39. The character defining doesn't have to work for Kerry and Gore

because it already has!

Get real.

[kodi]

43. Gore: He represents me..

He is of my generation, of my experience, of my historical perspective and sympathies.

If the word today is true that Gore is out for 2008 I feel that my generation has failed.

(And I am not wild about that, at all. Maybe I understand H S Thompson a little better tonight.)

With all the gifts and benefits of science, culture and wealth that was given to men of my generation to see the best of us in Al Gore stepping away is a sign that my own time has passed.

It is a cold, rainy night in the Kodi household.

"Of all sad things of tongue or pen, the saddest are these 'what might have been'."

John Greenleaf Whittier

If a guy like Al Gore can not make it to the White House, I don't think this country is worth a damn anymore.

[marcologico]

48. Gore's a good guy. Don't believe that Chris Matthews baloney.

I don't know Matthews from beans but that is 100% content-free hype.

p.s. I'd like to see Kerry/Gore although Al would be nuts to do it. Still it would be a great ticket.

[HootieMcBoob]

47. Wes Clark 2008

Unless you want to continue to lose.
Clark is landslide material - period

[wisteria]

49. My choice-Kerry!

I agree with your thoughts. Just remember how nothing negative seemed to influence those considering or predetermined to vote for Bush this past election. The guard service,and all former lies and bad decisions that had already been played out seemed to have no influence on voters. Once a so called "scandal" has been played out in the press, it won't have any where near the same impact the second time around.