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AndrewJacksonFaction Donating Member (471 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 04:43 AM
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Take a look at this s****
Edited on Thu Mar-03-05 04:48 AM by AndrewJacksonFaction
This was a discussion on another board here is his/her response to an earlier post from me.


***** look, your party is dying out. the signs are everywhere. there are no encouraging changes on the horizon for you to be heartened by either, so all you have left are these useless, transparent attacks on the republican party, who is quite frankly, "cleaning your clocks." try as you may, *****, i believe your party is drifting further and further out to sea, and there`s no one of worth at the helm. bon voyage, democrats.

US NEWS AND WORLD REPORT. march 2005
page 60

on society: by john leo

can liberalism survive?

Liberalism is now bookless and dying. The lack of new ideas and the utter absence of influential liberal thinkers is quite frankly, obvious.

No real breakthrough in liberal thought and programs has occurred since the New Deal, giving liberalism its nostalgic, reactionary cast.

Worse, their fundamental value is that society should have no fundamental values, except for a pervasive relativism that sees all values as equal.

modern liberalism, says Harvard political philosopher Michael Sandel, has emptied the national narrative of its civic resources, putting religion outside the public square and creating a value-neutral "procedural republic"

An old hero of liberalism, John Dewey said in 1897, that the practical problem of modern society is the maintenance of the spiritual values of civilization. not much room in liberal thought for that now.


liberals have become the no-values culture

The failure to perceive the importance of community has SERIOUSLY wounded liberalism and undermined its core principles. So has the strong tendency to convert moral and social questions into issues of individual rights, usually constructed and MASSAGED BY JUDGES to place them beyond the reach of majorities and the normal democratic process.

since nov 2, the withering contempt of liberals for ordinary americans has been truly astonishing. voting for bush gave quite average americans a chance to feel superior.


*******, here is the best description of your current plight.. read below...


"we are seeing the bitterness of elites who wish to lead, confronted by MULTITUDES who do not wish to follow. "

many americans notice that liberalism nowadays lacks the vocabulary of right and wrong, declines to discuss virtue except in SNICKERING terms, and seems INCREASINGLY HOSTILE to prevailing moral sentiments.

(this captures the essence of nudist`s and now just recently, ******`s posts)

consider the breakdown of universities. the fortresses of the 1960s cultural liberals and their progeny. students are taught that objective judgments are impossible. all knowledge is compromised by issues of power and bias. therefore there is no way to come to judgement about anything, since judgment itself rests on quicksand.

this principle, however, is suspended when the united states and western culture are discussed, because the west is essentially evil and guilty of endless crimes.

BETTER TO DECLARE A VAGUE TRANSNATIONAL IDENTITY AND ADMIRATION FOR THE UNITED NATIONS.

the campuses indulge in heavy coercion and indoctrination. a sign of the times: The University of California`s academic assembly eliminated the distinction between " interested" and "disinterested" scholarship by a 45-3 vote.

the campuses are politicized, and they dont care who knows it. Harvard is all atwitter because its president ran afoul of local orthodoxy, suggesting, ever so tentatively, that SEXUAL DIFFERENCES MIGHT BE A FACTOR IN CAREERS IN SCIENCE.

in their bafflement over rejection of their product, liberals have been lacing their speeches with religious phrases and asking mainstream americans to vote their economic interests by rejecting republican fat cats.

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IT WILL TAKE A BIT MORE THAN THAT.


*****, i believe the fat lady is on cue. the democrats are leaving the building. thankyou and goodnight.
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And my response to this trash.

Forgot to add: Liberals eat babies fresh out of the womb. Nice hate speech. Do you really believe this trash? Prove two(2) of these points within' your quotation and I will send you A GIFT CERTIFICATE FOR TWO(2) FOR (your all's favorite Hannity) TO RUTH CHRIS' STEAKHOUSE. Do it. Come on, I will check back to make sure.
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Enquiringkitty Donating Member (721 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 05:04 AM
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1. The only way we can fight back against that is for all of us to drop
the petty issues that we snipe at each other about. We do have values and they aren't that much different form anyone else's. We just don't think that our values should be shoved in other people's faces. He did say one thing right. We do think all values are equal. Your values are just as valid as mine; thus making them equal in importance to us. We DO think that there is a place in this country for everyone. That isn't so hard to understand if the Reps would put that burning cross down and try. We uphold the statement that we are all equal regardless of race, creed, color, sex, national origin, and let's add sexual orientation too. After all, if a guy doesn't wear a dress to work, I'd never notice if he was gay or not.

:shrug: How do you tell if a man in Scotland is gay? Many of them wear kilts and knee socks.....lol

Now all the bloggers from Scotland are going to jump my shit....lol
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AndrewJacksonFaction Donating Member (471 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 05:13 AM
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2. You are right. we are all the same, be it
black, brown, red, white, or green. We are all the same in one way. It is funny that you pointed this out because under all this BS that was said that is the one thing that stucj out at me. Am I liberal or am I human or both?
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POAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 05:18 AM
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3. One of the biggest reasons
that the GOP came back was the arrogance of the Democratic leadership who considered the GOP dead and buried in America. The leadership relaxed, went overboard in some ways and allowed the GOP to make a comback.

The attitude of this poster reflects that same attitude developing within the GOP towards Democrats today. Inevitably with the same result.

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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 05:43 AM
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4. Gee, can't I be a liberal AND an ordinary American
love that broad brush their painting with. Sounds rather like ideological masterbation to me (if you'll excuse the expression).

The dude needs to keep his wet dreams to himself.
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GoBlue Donating Member (930 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 06:09 AM
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5. I thinks it's better to let them hang themselves...
than to get caught up in their rope-a-dope hypocrisy.
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-03-05 06:25 AM
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6. This diatribe is fascist drivel
Reminds me of Goebbels anti-rational harangues. It is a direct appeal to the ignorant, sitting in their caves watching shadows on their flat screen tvs.
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