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Hosnon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 02:01 AM
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Tucker Carlson on Bill Maher
A reasonable man usually stays away from extremes. Tucker to me seems to be pretty reasonable...outside of CrapFire.

Thoughts?
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Hosnon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 02:03 AM
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1. To respond to my own post...(hmmm) - Tim Robbins may be too extreme...
Edited on Wed Mar-02-05 02:04 AM by MJDuncan1982
Is not wisdom found in moderation?
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 02:16 AM
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4. Have not seen Tucker since he left crossfire. He is no reporter so
I can understand why they didn't want him at CNN (since they do plan on closing down Crossfire and he was only good at being a conservative pundit). And he was one conservative who would apologize or agree if something was 'way wrong' of the WH. Though being conservative he was often wrong before he even opened his mouth. Novak was always informative as an insider as were the other two. I guess the day of the debate show is over.

The new pundits on crossfire seem to be real 'positive kool-aid drinkers'. You just cannot get the smiles off their faces and they show even more teeth when they 'reframe/lie' a direct question from the left. I cannot take it - so I do not watch anymore.

I like the DU better.
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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 02:11 AM
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2. I felt sorry for Stephanie Tubbs-Jones
She performed very poorly on that show. I'm sure I disagree with Tucker Carlson on most everything, but he came out on top Friday night.

By the way, Real Time With Bill Maher seems like it's dangerously close to jumping the shark. The first couple shows of this season haven't been very good, in my opinion.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 02:15 AM
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3. The show in general was alright
Tim Robbins did pretty well and I enjoyed miss Tubbs. :) She did pretty well. Tucker wasn't too bad. I could stand him. I still don't get the bowtie. :shrug: He wasn't looney or anything like that so I give him that.
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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 02:26 AM
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7. It seems that Bill has resigned himself that the GOP is in charge
I guess facing reality is a forgivable sin, but I don't have to like it. ;)

Tim Robbins seemed like he was hungover. I loved when he and his wife Susan Sarandon hosted the Late Late Show a few months back. That was great TV.

I don't get it about the bowtie either. Tucker and George Will. Two guys I love to hate. :)

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Hosnon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 02:20 AM
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5. Great Bill Maher Quote:
"You cannot,ever, legislate about love."

My mother was quite anti gay-marriage until Maher.

And I hope that Maher has not jumped the shark...his show is the non-familial link between my mother and I.
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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 02:31 AM
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8. "shark": probably just because the election is over
I just want to see Maher open a can of whoop-ass on Bush every Friday night. Hopefully, he'll get back to that.
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Hosnon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 02:41 AM
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9. Yes...or as I hope he does - perform as an advocate of truth:)
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Hosnon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 02:25 AM
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6. As a supplemental quote for Tucker:
"Marriage is itself a contract, recognized by the government, it's a legal contract, and it has to be, by definition, so this is one place where the government is from the very beginning involved, whether you like or not, it's intrinsic to the nature."

I am in law school...any lawyers around that can verify that marriage is a legal contract by definition?
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atre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 05:54 AM
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13. Yes.
The quote, while poorly delivered, is actually quite true. Marriage is considered a three party contract between the couple and the state; the state "retains" an interest in the marriage contract to ensure that certain policy objectives are satisfied.
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thatcoloredfella Donating Member (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 03:21 AM
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10. Carlson Is A Lying Weasal...
Maher is pandering to the Conservatives to get his ratings up, and they're using each other for the identical purpose.

I almost retched, when I heard Carlson describe himself as a Libertarian! And, Maher has set a date in March actually thinking they're going to get a predominantly Conservative crowd to show up!

Like me, Maher shares some basic Conservative principles, but the Right still hates his guts! He's increasingly disrespecting his Liberal audience, but never fails to deliver the material they roar over!

He can beg all the Conservatives he wants to come on the show, but he can't help himself from wailing on their stupid asses either!
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Hosnon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 03:28 AM
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11. Error finds itself when man will not compromise:
Of course Maher has some bad points. Tucker has some good points. Bush has some good points. Clinton has some bad points.

I am a member of the much derided "Intellectual Elite" because it is so open-minded and recognizes the existence of a gray middle ground between the black and white.
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jbnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 04:38 AM
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12. Could you name some
of bush's good points? Really.

I am open minded but my mind can't find can't good point bush has as president.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 07:38 AM
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14. it's good to be open minded
just don't be so open minded your brains fall out.

just an old quote an old woman told me once.
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quaoar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 10:19 AM
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20. Everybody has some good points
The BTK killer was a dedicated church member who was thoughtful enough to bring food to the church last week even though he couldn't make it to the Wednesday night dinner.

That doesn't mean we have to feel any angst when they strap his ass to the gourney and put him to sleep.

Not everything falls within the "gray middle ground." Some things, like Bush, are so predominantly black that whatever specks of gray might exist within him are blotted out.

I'm sure Bush loves his children and probably does not kick his dog and at one time in his youth he said compassionate things about treating gays with respect.

But the vile and disgusting presidency he has presided over obliterates any credit he gets for any of that.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 09:36 AM
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17. "Libertarians" are republicans too embarrassed to admit it
That may be a generalization, but not by much. That is MY experience, anyway. I have two friends who swore they hated Bush and were "Libertarians"...until November 04, when they voted for Bush.
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toddaa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 11:28 AM
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21. It's a generalization
I'm a libertarian and I don't recognize anything in today's Repub party that comes anywhere close to my political philosophy.
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GOPBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 07:46 AM
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15. Tucker Carlson is a pretty reasonable guy. I like him, even though I
disagree with him on nearly every issue.
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Ashamed_American Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 08:15 AM
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16. I am by no means a Tucker fan,
and I disagree with him on the majority of issues. But he came off fairly well from that show. Maher did make it a little easy on him, which he is beginning to do it seems. In 'Real Time' standards, it was a kind of blah episode. Nothing outrageous. I still won't watch Crossfire, or Crapfest with or without Tucker. Just not a good show.


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jdots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 09:51 AM
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18.  some search for heros to put on a pedastal
Is facism moderate when it portrayed in a soft light ?
is your question an answer ?
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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-02-05 10:04 AM
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19. Well tell Tucker to get the hell off of Maher!
Damn those touchy-feely Republican cling-ons types.

With their bow ties.
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