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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 02:44 PM
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PROOF! E-mail sent to NPR Can Help Change Language used!
Today on NPR's "Morning Edition" story reveals E-mails about NOT using WH words (SS "Reform") did change the language NPR uses now. Now to get rid of "Over-haul." The story includes an excerpt from RW "Spawn of the Devil" Frank Luntz.:evilgrin:

I suggest "Trash," as in, "*'s plan to 'Trash' Social Security..."

Please post the words YOU would use, then e-mail NPR with your suggestions at:

morning@npr.org
atc@npr.org

Listen here:
<http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4515900>

News Outlets Choosing their Words Carefully

by Brooke Gladstone
Morning Edition, February 28, 2005 ·

Some news organizations are giving extra thought to how they use words and phrases like reform, moral values, and war on terror. Brooke Gladstone of NPR's "On the Media" explores how some media outlets decide what to say, and how to say it.
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 02:49 PM
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1. "On the Media" is NPR's last tenuous hold on the "liberal"
tag they used to be known for. It's the only show on the damn network that could be identified as leaning left anymore....the rest is mostly corporate RW shilling, with a gnat-wing-thing overlay of ideological pretense to magnanimity.
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fob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 02:55 PM
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2. What. The. Fuck. Is that Beetle Bailey cartoon real?
Please tell me that's been doctored and the talk-balloons have been altered with those words for some unkown reason. That is the most bizarre "skit" I've ever seen!
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 03:03 PM
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3. The Situationists used to call it "detournment."
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fob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 03:14 PM
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4. Can you explain what "detournment" is? My dictionary only has
'Detour' and an online check has no entry for detournment.

Is that french for "what the fuck kind of non-sequitur was that?"
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 03:19 PM
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5. "Detournment" is the term the Situationists International (google 'em)
used for taking a piece of the "spectacle" and appropriating it for their own ends (all so-called "culture jamming" proceeds from this idea).
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fob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 04:40 PM
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8. OK, you're still using terms that I have no idea what they mean but I
found this at your link;

Détournement is less effective the more it approaches a rational reply. That BB cartoon certainly runs far away from a rational response that it's detournement is through the roof!

It's DetournEment (french), not detournment(not an actual english word at least where I have been able to find)

"spectacle" - I assume is a reference to our world and it's inherent silliness in general

"Situationists" and "Situationists International" - I've never heard the terms until your post, I'll google later.


For the OP: Sorry to hijack your thread, but I didn't make it and it may be poisoned!!
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 03:22 PM
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7. Here's a link:
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 03:20 PM
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6. NPR used "Old Europe and New Europe" as recently as last week during
Bush's trip there.
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 11:52 PM
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9. I think they were referring to the usage of the term
NPR tends not to use the terms "Quote" "Un-Quote":hippie:
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-28-05 11:58 PM
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10. No, they were using the term to describe what Bush was doing in Europe.
"He was visiting Old Europe." It was said with very little irony, if any. It was used in a summary of upcoming stories.
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