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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 11:51 AM
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Cspan's Wash. Journal can't get enough repub callers
I'm a regular watcher, and this has been going on for a while now. They have, as you may know, three lines: Independent, Democrat, and "support Pres. Bush". From time to time during their show they have to make an announcement that their Bush line is empty, although their Independent and Dem lines are completely full.

This wasn't true before or right after the election. So is this an indication that Bush's approval ratings are going down? That people are just not very excited about him anymore, now that the propaganda machine has cooled off a bit? I think that without a continuous stream of propaganda and fear-mongering, there just isn't very much base support for this administration. One very arrogant and condescending repub caller on Sunday said the reason is that "the republicans aren't calling because they are getting ready to go to church"! A statement like that is simply infuriating to me. And he was dead wrong: they also were missing Bush callers on Monday, Tuesday and today-lol!
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 11:53 AM
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1. Or that the phone lines were being astro-turfed? And now with
Gannon exposed, they're getting cold feet?
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 11:56 AM
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4. My first thought too - or now that the election is over they've move the
phone banks to other targets. Like calling old people at home to frighten them about Social Security or something.
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 11:58 AM
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6. I believe there was a great deal of Astro-Turf last fall. nt
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 12:44 PM
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14. It could be
Or maybe because the election is over and they "won" they feel like they don't have to rub it into people's faces. :shrug: I don't know. It could be any number of things.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 01:11 PM
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17. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Tell me another one!
Love your joke, "they feel like they don't have to rub it into people's faces". Got any more?
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 11:54 AM
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2. I hope you're right
I hope the lack of callers means that Dubya's support is dwindling....

If KKKarl and the boys see this in their polling data, they're very likely to instigate some kind of military action to raise the president's numbers....
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 11:55 AM
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3. You would think in a nation of 290 million people...?
they could get a few people to call in "supporting President Bush" and give the impression that at least 50% of people continue to support him.
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 11:57 AM
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5. I've noticed it, too, though I don't watch every day.

Maybe I should call on the GOP line -- I've never had my call answered on the Dem line. Sometimes it rings and rings but is never answered, mostly it's busy.

They do have some prize idiots who call in supporting Bush**, though. As soon as I hear "I support President" I yell "Bush ONE HUNDRED PERCENT" since those are their next words nine times out of ten!
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 12:42 PM
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13. Now THERE'S an idea...
Edited on Wed Feb-23-05 01:03 PM by calimary
You could be a stealth caller, pretend you're republi-CON, and then talk about why you are now so disenchanted with the schmuck. At least you'd have a few moments to get some, if not all, of your point across before they cut you off.

And yes, I'd say this is one measure of public opinion. Not THE one, not the only one, certainly. But another one. It's an indicator. And it could mean that people who are hopped up enough about this stuff to want to be active enough to call in a talk show, and a CSPAN talk show at that (you have to be sort of a news/info-junkie to watch CSPAN a lot to begin with) are NOT as hopped up about bush anymore. Election's over, and so is the big party. The circus has left town. Champagne's all been drunk. And now the hangover's set in. And now they wake up to the mess that has to be cleaned up, like the one all over Pasadena at the end of the Rose Parade. And it's not a pretty sight.

It could mean, now that the election's over and they're basically not needed anymore, that they've moved on and gone back to their lives until it's time to crank up for the next campaign. They don't need to be as vigilant anymore, at least at the moment. "Mission Accomplished," after all. If THAT'S true, then it's a VERY good thing. It means they've let down their guard. TRUE, they may just be the "little-guy" operatives like that abomination Pat whatever-her-name-was whose repulsive photo was so prominent here during the republi-CONvention (remember her with the bad dentures and the goofy hat and the purple heart bandaid on one of her chins?). But there are people like her all over the country who are the grassroots of the Bad Guys. She's the one who sashays around in public, showing off those damned bandaids, and she's the one who makes lots of sandwiches for lunch to feed the Texas republi-CONS who were hounding the protesting Democrats who skipped over the state line during a state legislature crisis. She's the one who makes a lot of those "astroturf" calls to outfits like CSPAN, and provides the bodies needed in those hand-picked crowds and photo-ops. She's one of those who does the grunt work at the ground level and gives the Bad Guys the underpinnings they need. She's their backbone. And there are people like her all over the country.

If people like her have let down their guard a little, GREAT! SENSATIONAL!!! That gives US time to work, plant seeds to POISON THE WELL, and allow them to take root, while the bad guy operatives who get in our way and muck things up and second-guess us and wreck our work and spread lies and distortions and scare tactics all over everywhere are off napping or doing something else. GREAT! SEIZE THE TIME!!!!

And, then again, it could also mean that at least SOME people like her are maybe in the 50 - 54 age group that didn't quite make the honey-wagon of protected Social Security benefiters. Remember, bush said people from age 55 up would enjoy their benefits untouched. What about the slightly younger ones? Or even the ones somewhat younger than that - who suddenly realize that funny feeling under their feet is the tremor of a rug being yanked out from under them. Maybe their enthusiasm is suddenly waning for their "hero" now that they're seeing what he really wants to do. Or maybe it's some of the elderly who suddenly don't like that their OTHER group, AARP, is now under attack, or that they just are becoming increasingly upset about the idea of somebody mucking around with Social Security. I have an elderly neighbor like that - a formerly died-in-the-wool, staunch republi-CON who all of a sudden - and QUITE seriously - isn't so sure anymore. Maybe they're even feeling a little bit - gulp - BETRAYED?????? Well, if that's true, don't expect many of THEM to call in and say "YAY, bush!"

It's one audience research meter. Not the only one, because CSPAN doesn't bring you a realistic cross-section of people. You sure don't get the passive ones who either aren't into calling a talk show or just aren't into it, period. But this one measurement, I would say, IS telling.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 12:46 PM
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15. Could be good
Maybe if enough people do that it could make some people think. "Hey if my fellow republican is having trouble maybe I should look into it" or something. :shrug:
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Pathwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 12:50 PM
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16. Do what the repubs used to do: say "I've been a Republican
my whole life, BUT..." They used to claim to be Dems who've "seen the light", so why not say you're a repub, but you just can't approve of his policies?
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 11:59 AM
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7. This morning I caught a few minutes of
the segment with the Washington Post whore spewing the party line about "progress" in Iraq. Most callers were Dems, but the one I heard who claimed to be a chimp supporter wanted to know why the media was giving the admin. a pass. Probably a Dem who called in on the chimp supporter line because it was easier to get through.
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 12:05 PM
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8. Now that the election is over, Repukes may not feel
compelled to bother calling in, while we who despise Bush are more pissed than we've ever been.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 12:09 PM
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9. I think they should switch to "For" and "Against" the question being
discussed. I find the Dem/Repub distinction tiring.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 12:16 PM
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11. That would be better for C-SPAN and its viewers...
and give a better understanding of what people in general think about one topic or another, rather than continuing to divide our naiton into "Bush supporters" and everybody else.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 12:12 PM
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10. HA!!!
Getting ready to go to CHURCH??? That's PRICELESS!!! I guess Republicans are all required to go to church at THE EXACT SAME TIME across many time zones...!!! No wonder they are so damn cranky--those Republicans on the West Coast and Hawaii have to get up damn early, don't they!!!

I notice that the enthusiasm is waning...that Social Security stunt made even the knee-jerk loyalists sit up and take notice.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-05 12:21 PM
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12. I LOVE your sig line---LOL! n/t
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