Exellent Post on DKos....Must Read

[angel54321]

Tue Feb 22nd, 2005 at 08:12:40 PST

Most people in the outside world do not explicitly believe we are passing through a period of constitutional crisis. That an impeachment was run over a blow job didn't clue them in. That a president was installed by judicial fiat did not clue them in. That a war was launched which is, and was, essentially a giant looting expedition on the Treasury has not clued them in.
So what is going on? What is the thread that unifies Iraq and Social Security, the election crisis of 2000?

The process of American Constitutional change, and according to that process, the greatest dangers lie ahead, not behind us.

Diaries :: Stirling Newberry's diary ::

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/2/22/111240/237

[LibertyorDeath]

1. Thanks really interesting will finish tomorrow got to go to bed

:toast:

[angel54321]

3. Yep, long read

but this needs to be kicked up so everyone can have a chance to read it. I had to print it out so I could read it better, 8 pages!! Its an eye opener, thats for sure.

[KingoftheJungle]

2. that is one kick ass essay

thanks for posting that

[angel54321]

4. Its a must read for all of us

I hope it gets kicked up. Everyone must read it. Its for our childrens future!!

[KingoftheJungle]

5. kicking this again, this essay spells out the root of all our problems

and the only real solutions we have to combat them. This is a very important essay, I cannot stress this enough.

[sendero]

6. Very interesting..

... and, if with my short attention span, I can read it - you should too :)

Seriously - a fairly far-ranging and cohesive rendition of where we are today.

[John_H]

7. Excellent. Sadly the Author forgets the two farthest reaching

steps toward one party dictatorship that Chip wants to enact. No, they're not sexy like impeachment or voting machines but they will have a horrifying effect on the way our country operates.

1) Ending Civil Service protections. As a former political appointee in the Clinton Admin, I can tell you first hand that most career civil servants have nothing to do with the "lazy government workers" cliche that chimp will count on to get his "merit based promotions" bill passed. These are serious experts in their fields who are dedicated to their agencies' purpose and their country's well being. I can also tell you that civil service protections mean that if enough career staff think a program is deleterious or blatantly political its implementation can be slowed down so much that it is as good as dead, no matter what the former campaign hacks who "run" the agencies try to do. Political appointees, on the other hand can be fired at any time, with impunity. They had better do what their bosses want or they're gone.

What chimp wants to do is, in effect, make every federal employee a political appointee by basing raises and promotions on the decision of their bosses--who by law are political appointees. In other words, there can and will be NO resistance at all to chimps country ruining initiatives, unless a bunch of civil servants are willing to sacrifice their careers to stop them. No Resistance, no leaks, no whistle blowing. Chew on that one for a while.

2. The end of the filibuster. For good or ill the filibuster has been the minority party's most powerful tool period. countless bills, treaties, and even wars have been stopped by the filibuster. Now, chimp is going to use a trumped up judicial fight to end it, which means that the senate will be transformed from the "dam" that the founders designed it to be into a rubber stamp for the entire body the president's legislative agenda--no compromise needed, no amendment needed.

The scary thing about these two initiatives is that the American people don't know enough or pay enough attention to stop it. And when these two changes are made our democracy is as good as dead.

[LibertyorDeath]

11. Indeed these are 2 very important issues if America is to stop

bush's emerging Police State.

[KittyWampus]

8. Bash, Break, Borrow- The Alternative Was To Offer A Green Revolution

Kerry didn't do it. Yes, I believe the Election was fraudulent.

But Kerry didn't use Green Revolution as the focal point.

It addresses EVERYTHING that the GOP can throw at us.

[Kota]

9. Thank you, must read for everyone.

[LibertyorDeath]

10. Kick for a must read

:kick::kick::kick:

[Renew Deal]

12. Sterling Newberry is a good writer and bullshit artist

I worked with him on the Clark campain. No one could make a better case and/or defend Clark online than him. He is an exceptional writer. He also was a major crybaby that loves to listen to the bullshit that comes out of his own mouth.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=454355#455508

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=454355#455833

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=507901

[Nothing Without Hope]

18. If he is a "bullshit artist," what would you change about this essay?

You write "He also was a major crybaby that loves to listen to the bullshit that comes out of his own mouth."

Does this view of his character affect your opinion of what is said in this essay? Are there falsehoods or key omissions? What would you say differently?

[Renew Deal]

19. It does affect it unfortunately.

Like I said, he's a good writer. Possibly even exceptional, but I haven't forgotten the whining from campaign season. Other than that, it will take time to go through that thing.

[wiggs]

13. Important. Fundamental. Chilling.

The "big picture" of where we are going has been missing from political discussions. Discussion of the vision described in the article should be of utmost importance to both democrats and republicans. But GOP and PNAC'rs make sure that they steer us in the direction they want by tackling one issue at a time, using fear, hate, and media control.

This article is one of the most important I've seen in a while. These are fundamental, techtonic plate-shifting, geopolitical issues that most Americans are blind to.

[wiggs]

14. And, by the way

That the GOP leaders have this world vision of corporatism, concentration of wealth, and control of oil puts in perspective their other actions. Secrecy, lying, election manipulation, smearing of opposition, control of science, bending of constitution and geneva convention are all small pototoes compared to their end game.

With trillions of dollars, geopolitical organization, and global domination on the line, honesty, justice, law and accountability are not important.

Dems should make clear that unless you are CEO or major shareholder of a global corporation, this government is out to screw you and yours.

They ARE playing chess and WE are playing checkers. Not only do we not know who is playing and who we are playing against, the game may already be over.

Is it too late? Are we past the point of no return?

We see every day that lies don't matter in the US. Mistakes, scandals, election fraud, ruinous environmental policy, disastrous monetary policy, world opinion, etc don't matter in terms of media reporting and US attention span. They can virtually do anything they want now, IMO.

And another thing....what are other countries going to do when our aims become apparent?

[Malva Zebrina]

15. This is a fascinating theory

and analysis. I read it with interest and admiration.

My gut feeling is that anything that will butt up against what we are encountering now will be nothing short of revolution with all it's passion and committment.

I am not, obviously, as erudite, nor as schooled or educated as many of those posting on that blog, but my gut feeling tells me that the strongest oppostion, the beginning of the outward display of total frustration, will begin with the ordinary guy, real pissed off ordinary guys who understand that a scream, a shout, a passionate resistance, is his or her's last refuge to beat down Bush and his fascist minions to keep him from further destroying this country.

If the frustration gains steam and numbers in the form of revolution or resistance, then we can settle back and turn to intelligentia to verify it, to present the reasonable approach, complete with all reason and logic that would verify without doubt, the cause.

my two cents.

[angel54321]

16. Bash time

you wrote: "will begin with the ordinary guy, real pissed off ordinary guys who understand that a scream, a shout, a passionate resistance, is his or her's last refuge to beat down Bush and his fascist minions to keep him from further destroying this country."


I could not agree with you more. Please keep this kicked for all to read. One of the best I have read that clarifies where the republiCONS are taking us.

[NEOBuckeye]

23. This "ordinary guy" is already VERY ANGRY

I really can't repeat on this thread what my true feelings are about Bush, Cheney, the PNAC/NeoCons, and the Republican Party. But I can tell you that we are all going to have to stand up and oppose these ruthless, evil fuckers with everything that we've got, and then some. This one isn't going to be suddenly solved by another round of campaigning in 2008. Not even close.

Mark my words, people. These GOP fuckers don't intend to lose again. Ever.

I think it's already too late to save the national government, as it is structured now. It's too rife with corruption and abuse, and also so far removed from the ideals of the founding fathers, from the American people themselves.

Before this is over, we're going to have to clean house. Big time.

[TexasLawyer]

17. Thanks for posting

If we can get above the trees, we can view a very ugly political and societal forest.

[Trish1168]

20. seems to me to make the pieces fit together

Its a good hypothesis. I don't understand how they feel like there won't be backlash. But I guess since they control the media, the vote and the legal system....they feel like they have it under control.

Ahh, but every time there's repression, there resistance that rises to meet it. This is what their arrogance could not allow them to factor in (or at least, the resistance has been and will be greater than they anticipate). That's my hope.

I know many people who were centrists or to the right of center, who no longer support republicans.

I was a republican less than 5 years ago. Now I'm a budding activist for the dems.

I hope we can turn this all around!!!

[FreedomAngel82]

22. I think it will be a slow process

Earlier this week Sam Seder had three people call in and say they were either turning to the democratic party or were on the fence. So I think the more things hit home to people and Bush's policies effect them directly it will make them turn onto people. How can you still be with them if you don't have a roof over your head? Food on the table for your family and been out of a job for months and still support the Bush administration and their policies? After more people were starting to see Bush's budget cuts I read farmers were getting angry at him, so this is a start. It will definietly take more angry people to save us.

[TexasLawyer]

21. kick n/t

[slay]

24. Wow. A true must read!

I can't do it justice. Just make sure you read it.

[wiggs]

25. kick for days. The comments on dailykos are interesting too. nt

[wiggs]

26. To the top one more time. nt