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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 12:03 PM
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Should Democrats bypass MSM and go straight to "bloggers"?
Would they be more effective in getting out their message by bypassing the corporate media ? It's obvious the MSM are feeling the competition from the bloggers. Could it be that bloggers are the media of the future - at least for reporting news?
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soleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 12:03 PM
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1. I thought we did
:shrug:
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 12:06 PM
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2. I didn't get the memo?
And obviously many Democratic leaders also did not get it??
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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 12:10 PM
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4. We should and I decided instead of calling them MSM, I'm calling them CMC
CMC for Corporate Media Cartel

When we complain and call them the MSM we give them credit for being mainstream when they are not. We automatically shoot ourselves in the foot by painting ourselves as outside the mainstream. They are the problem not us. Calling them the CMC is more accurate and gives them the negative connotations they deserve.

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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 12:12 PM
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5. Good point Melodybe
A part of the 'framing" issue..
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soleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 12:21 PM
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7. Excellent point
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 12:06 PM
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3. Ohio housewives don't know what a blog is.
Until TV Blogging appears, the corporate media is about the only way to communicate.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 12:14 PM
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6. Shhh.. That's my idea.
TV blogging.. Well actually open Internet video blogging. I'm working on it quietly in my darkened lair.
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BurgherHoldtheLies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 12:31 PM
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10. PA housewives DO KNOW what a blog is....
Can Ohio be that far behind? My point here is to say that blogs are catching on, even in the suburban housewife world. Besides the never ending commercials for erectile dysfunction, the MSM all carry the exact same stories over-and-over again with NO real investigative reporting. You can switch between CNN, MSNBC, Fox, etc. and see Michael Jackson peering through his hospital blinds on all of them at the same time. Nonsense news.

It's the new frontier.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 12:27 PM
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8. Of course. The Radical RW bypass the normal channels all the time...
...and go straight to HeadRush, Insanity, and the hate radio gang.

But PLEASE, ken, don't use the expression MSM!! There's NOTHING mainstream about their filthy agenda of greed and manipulation. Call them the Corporate Media.

Thanks. Rant off. That is all. Carry on Citizen.

NGU.


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Dr Ron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 12:31 PM
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9. We'd just be talking to ourselves
We need to reach people beyond the bloggers.

While people talk about the success of the right wing bloggers, they fail to recognize the synergy between the right wing bloggers, right wing pseudo-news organizations, and right wing talk radio. Blogs enough aren't enough. The problem is that many people are getting their news from sources beyond the mainstream media, and these are genearlly far right wing. While the MSM has its problems, they are far preferable to the newer news sources.
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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 12:42 PM
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11. You obviously don't know who owns what
the Saudis, as in the Saudi Royals and the Bin Laden family own large stakes in both Disney, who owns ABC, and News Corp. They also own a majority of AOL/Time/Warner stock, who in turn own Time, Newsweek, USA today, and CNN.

GE owns MSNBC and NBC and oh yeah they make ten times the amount of money from selling weapons to the government than they do from their tlelvision channels. War is good business for GE.

Give me a blogger anyday!

I have decided to only refer to them as the CMC (Corporate Media Cartel) or corporate media, it correctly pegs them as the manipulation hungry greedy SOBs they really are.
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Dr Ron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 01:54 PM
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12. It's not a matter of who owns what
It is a matter of reaching audience. The liberal blogs don't reach many people beyond those who will already vote for Democrats.
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 02:01 PM
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13. We need someone like Soros and Turner to fund a channel for the truth.
As in, what you would find on blogs (i.e. people who actually do their damned JOBS as investigators).

Mainstream channels are pretty much identical in the news they're assigned to broadcast from those in power and from their rich Saudi shareholders. Pretty much worthless to follow that nonsense.
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rndmprsn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 02:03 PM
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14. i've been doing just that for the last 3-4 months anyhow
cabal news was turned off right after the election and i almost never watch the half-hour infotainment called the network nightly news either...internet, the paper, air-america and serious left radio and my friends are my main news sources these days...and thats not going to change till we have our own television media to watch.
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Griffy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 02:21 PM
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15. WE NEED MSM or make our own... but not enough people are reached....
blogging alone. Millions dont have time or whatever to pay close enough attention to see what we see. They trust in the news, most people dont know about the fairness doctire dying 15 years ago... that propaganda is rampant and they are being misled!
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KissMeKate Donating Member (741 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-05 02:49 PM
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16. yes, the media is becoming more irrelevent each day.
eom
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