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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 04:43 PM
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Ed Schultz thinks the media is going to go after Dean hard this weekend
Edited on Wed Feb-09-05 05:11 PM by Quixote1818
He just said that the mainstream media is going to go after Dean full throttle as a poor choice but they are full of shit. He just made Dean sound like a God. He also said he was turned down by one of the Sunday political shows when he said he was going to defend Dean as a good choice.

Sounds like they are looking for people who will rip on on Dean this Sunday. What a surprise.
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 04:49 PM
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1. My response when Repukes say they are excited about Dean being DNC Chair
"I love the sound of fear in Republican and rightwing voices when they say the name of 'Howard Dean'. It makes my day. I agree with Mark Brewer, the Michigan DNC Chair, when he said, "The Republicans can gloat now, but they'll regret the day that Howard Dean became chair of the Democratic National Committee."

How's that for reframing?!!

I'm an Illinoisan living in CT and I still have my Midwestern drawal. When I say my response, I lay heavy into my drawal to imitate Clint Eastwood the best I can.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 09:36 PM
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31. I think the republicans will be surprised
by dean. They haven't had a chance to get to know him as much so I can't wait. :)
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 04:50 PM
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2. Schultz turned down because he would defend Dean as chair?
Get ready to rumble.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 04:53 PM
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3. The Media's Looking To Make Democratic Party Against Dean
thanks for confirming this via Schultz
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 04:59 PM
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6. Yes, thats kind of the way Ed Schultz made it sound
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jedr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 04:55 PM
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4. you can't beat the repugs by fighting their fight. on their terms
if you think mainstream media is going yo do anything but butter their own bread, your crazy....Dean knew that the net was the answer...as more people get fed up with W and crew, they will have to be converted by other means of media....he has a hard job(Dean), but he's bright and on target...go get 'em Howard
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 05:25 PM
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9. Why else are we having "reports" that Pelosi, Reid and others are
telling Dean that he isn't going to run the party? It's all couched to make this look like the Dem Party is split over Dean. So, the MSM is going to continue this.

It's up to our DNC/DLC Dems to Unite WITH US just like we on the Left united to support Kerry. It's Payback Time!

We "gotta hang together or we hang alone"...as the old saying goes.
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moggie12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 05:50 PM
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15. You are absolutely right
I wasn't a Dean fan during the primaries, but I'm behind him 100% now. It's time for everyone who cares about the Democratic Party and wants to defeat Bush and the right wing nutjobs to unite.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 06:31 PM
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26. I so much agree! We've got to
hang out together! :grouphug: This may seem mushy but if we're serious about beating back the creeps..we've gotta do it!
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Dean_Convert Donating Member (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 04:59 PM
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5. Dean's the Man!
I wasn't sure about the good doctor a year ago, but now I realize he should have been the Democratic nominee all along. The Democrats can now make the case that 50.8% is not a mandate. It was Dean who got us to that point, and he's the only nationally-known Democrat who can keep the party energized and moving.
:kick:
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 05:29 PM
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11. Welcome to DU
I was not a supporter of Dean for President (I didn't support anybody actually, though I'd say that Clark or Kerry were who I would have gone for if somebody held a gun to my head during primary season) but I do think he's the right person for this job and have touted him as such for a while now. He's certainly higher profile than McAuliffe.
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riverwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 05:17 PM
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7. Maybe we should be preemptive
and call and write the media, especially Sunday shows, and tell them how thrilled we are about Dean.
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dalloway Donating Member (744 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 05:53 PM
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18. how about a floaty hearts for Dean thread in honor of valentine's day?
:loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya:

MY DNC chair!
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cry baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 09:59 PM
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34. Belated welcome, dalloway...
:hi:
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Catamount Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 06:21 PM
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23. Absolutely right- preemption,
What can we do?
What's the fastest way to do this?
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 05:21 PM
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8. All the more reason to make as big a stink as we can about Jeff Gannon.
Edited on Wed Feb-09-05 05:27 PM by calimary
No reason not to ride that horsey all the way out. Who knows what we might be able to make of it - as in - the Plame angle?

And to riverwalker, ABSOLUTELY. YES we should make it LOUD AND CLEAR about Howard Dean. PREEMPTIVE STRIKES ARE MOST FITTING AND PROPER!!! Let 'em know WE'VE GOT DEAN'S BACK and there are WAY more of us than the enemy realized. SHUT 'EM UP ALREADY.

I posted this earlier. Forgive the repetition, but it seemed relevant:


BTW, brothers and sisters, we will now see an AVALANCHE of press about how flakey Dean is, how weirdo Dean is, they'll haul out that scream videotape, they'll laugh at him, they'll try to marginalize him and sneer at him, and laugh at how we just self-immolated as a party. That will be wishful thinking on the enemy's part, and their patsies and other stenographers in the press will be dutifully recording this. But the rumors of our death will prove to be greatly exaggerated.

Just please remember to disregard it all. It's being sent as a message to us to stay down like good little doggies. tim roemer was a trojan horse. I'm glad at least that he's capable of reading the writing on the wall.

NOW, we have to solidify behind Howard Dean, and STAY SOLID.

They will be whispering distraction and temptation in our ears like the snake did to Eve. We HAVE TO resist it all, and FIGHT BACK. Take the ascendance of Howard Dean as a metaphor. He's the fighter. That he remains the last man standing should be taken as a metaphor. A symbol. HE is the guy who prevailed. Not the capitulators and the cavers and the make nice-nice types and the Neville Chamberlains. The straight shooter is the last man standing. Let's take that and run with it.

Here's my suggestion, humbly but earnestly submitted:

Any time, and I do mean ANY time you hear some wrong-winger or wrong-winger in sheep's clothing, like a judy woodruff or paula zahn or wolf blitzer or joe scarborough or tweety or george will or ANY of those pundit types, go into thermonuclear war mode (hey, the republi-CONS would do no less if they felt they were attacked). STORM them with angry emails, faxes, letters, phone calls. SAME THING for anything you read in any newspaper, magazine, weekly, or online whatever. RESPOND. And do so QUICKLY. RAPID RESPONSE is EVERYTHING. They should know that whatever it is that they're trying to do to tear down Howard Dean will NOT be tolerated.

Like, for example, your dog keeps trying to jump on you when you want him to stay on all fours, do you keep letting him do it with no behavior correction, or do you give him a firm, loud "NO!" immediately upon the offense, so the dog will connect the two? When you're trying to potty-train your kid, is one time enough to take him or her to the potty, just assuming he/she will get it instantly, or is it something you need to do over and over and over and over until it finally sinks in?

Same thing with this.

Furthermore, reinforcement should be applied LIBERALLY (pun intended) with ALL our Democratic reps. They need to know THIS IS HOW WE'RE PLAYING THE GAME NOW, FOLKS. WE ARE UNDER NEW MANAGEMENT. TIME TO FISH OR CUT BAIT. They need to be told, in no uncertain terms, that they are expected to play ball or else, and get with the program. Evidently, this is the message that's come pretty loudly and clearly to various DNC activists who've been doing phone bank activism. I got one of those calls myself and I said clearly and resolutely - NOT ANOTHER DIME, and NO I WILL NOT SIGN UP AGAIN - UNLESS THE DNC ELECTS HOWARD DEAN AS ITS NEW CHAIR. After she tried arguing with me and reasoning with me, she finally gave in and admitted that I wasn't the first person she'd heard that from. GOOD. The Bob Shrums and Al Fromms have to be sent packing. They've led us to several straight losses in the elections, not just presidential BUT midterm as well. Their idea of moving to the middle and capitulating and turning their backs on what we are as Democrats instead of trying to figure out how to persuade the public that OUR way is BETTER, and to more effectively communicate and package us as a party and a philosophy has gotten us exactly NOWHERE.

All contrarians HAVE TO BE read the rules and ordered to comply. OR ELSE. The time for taking prisoners and accepting excuses and capitulations - HAS PASSED.

We're UNDER NEW MANAGEMENT, and I, for one, couldn't be more delighted!


DU thread:
Dean Opponent (Roemer) Bows Out of Chairman's Race
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=1219042#1219131

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sampsonblk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 06:37 PM
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27. Hey, where's OUR avalanche?
I wanna see a Dem-led avalanche against Gannon.

This should be bigger than the Rather story. Would be nice if our national party leaders would band together and push it in unison - like the Repubs do.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 06:37 PM
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28. I know..my co-worker friend who
doesn't pay as much attention to politics as I do..doesn't think Dean is right for the DNC Chair..I asked him who he wanted and he couldn't tell me. I can tell by what I know of him in the past that he just doesn't get it. He also thought bush's Iraq attack was orignally a good idea...and then he changed his mind.

Dean's action will speak Louder than these mediawhores' words!
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 05:25 PM
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10. Yep......Ed Schultz is accurate about this....
and in fact Faux did a pre-emptive strike yesterday. I was just clicking passed their station...like I always do, when I saw Dean on the Screen saying "I hate Republicans and everything they stand for"...then the tape is abruptly cut off.

Sooooo looks like fox is going to be busy trying to turn even the most mild mannered Republican against Dean, and by extension, againt the Democratic Party.

Looks like we've got our work cut out for us....But I'm sure that Dean will handle it just fine. It was inevitable....not matter who DNC would have chosen would have been slimed. At least, he'll talk back, instead of cowering in a corner somewhere.

Got my seatbelt on....and ready for the ride!
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 05:35 PM
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12. Dean gets what they are up to...he remembers "the Scream" and how
the Media Whores portrayed it. He's savy and "clued in" now. They won't get to him.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 05:41 PM
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13. I say...ignore the MSM this weekend and spend your time
writing letters to the editor praising Dean.

Calling to talk radio shows praising Dean.

Posting on the internet praising Dean.

Letting your Reps and Senators know you praise Dean.

:kick: WE ARE THE PARTY :kick:

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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 05:55 PM
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19. Agree tune out MSM and their fights for "Mind Control" of Dem Minds...
We know what we know...why even bother with this crap! They NEED US for "Ratings." We've tuned OUT...they think they can sucker us back in with "tidbits" along with their Repug Worshipers...

Leave it...They don't learn..because they are OWNED...
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July Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 06:02 PM
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20. And donating when he asks, or perhaps each time a "pundit"
is unfair to him. Direct tie between their tearing him down and our fattening the party coffers. I think that would freak them out a little.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 06:07 PM
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21. Ohhhh like the drinking game w/out the booze
Every time you hear the scream send the DNC $1.00 for Dean

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CatholicEdHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 10:46 PM
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35. Scream will be on
endless repeat as if it really means something.

I loved Ed's pro-Dean rant today.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 05:47 PM
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14. Of course they will
Dr. Dean dares to say that the world is not safer with Saddam in jail.
He dares to say that the budget should be balanced.
He dares to say that Bush*s tax cuts should be rolled back.
He dares to say that abortion is a woman's choice.
He dares to say that faith based funding is unconstitional.
He dares to say that the Patriot Act should be repealed.
He dares to say that gays should be allowed to have civil unions.


He is a radical looney, who must be stopped at any cost!!!! These positions he espouses will be THE END OF AMERICA!!!! He is crazed, I tell you, bonkers, lights on but nobody's home, piffled, frazzled and fried.......





/sarcasm
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 05:50 PM
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16. They cannot let a piece of Democratic News alone
They cannot let a piece of Democratic News alone. They always have to contextualize it & rip the face of the neutral/good story.

What a pack of dogs. Shultz should be so ashamed!! So ashamed!! Look at Shultz now - the littly patsie puppet of Rove!
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cry baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 09:55 PM
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32. Why should Shultz be ashamed of himself? He supports Dean 110%
He is just warning about what the DLC dems will say this Sunday.

Welcome to DU!:hi:
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 12:57 AM
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36. Maybe I have the wrong person... oh yes - wrong person
:silly:
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BanzaiBonnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 05:51 PM
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17. Won't they love it
when donations to the DNC start rolling in.

The day the vote is official for Dean for DNC chair, I'm going to send them money. It will be a first for me.
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cry baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 09:57 PM
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33. Welcome to DU, BB!
:hi:
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 06:14 PM
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22. Dean will be head of the DNC and we stand ready to support him totally.
Let them try to destroy Dean. It ain't gonna work.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 01:14 AM
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37. yes, I use to be skeptical of Dean but now I am really excited about
him as Party Chair. I think it's a perfect fit! It should be fun to watch and perhaps in the future Dean will end up as President. He has shown he does not give up and when he is down he only becomes stronger. Those are all great qualities. He should do awesome for the party. He is just what we need right now.
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Shopaholic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 06:23 PM
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24. Anyone see the total hack job that David Brooks from the NYT
did on Dean earlier this week? That's when I knew just how scared the Repugs truly are of Dean. And I for one, am thrilled. About damn timed we got someone to run the DNC that the repugs & media are scared of.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 06:27 PM
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25. AS we know..
"IT'S THE MEDIA STUPID" and will be until we figure out a way to make them irrelevant!

Must be easy to have all the evil power on your side and the media..creepy cowards..they couldn't win in balanced fight.
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 06:48 PM
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29. Three Words
Bring It On.
We Want Our Country Back.
If we have to take it from the bottom up, we will.
Ed Schultz should be playing Dean's speeches round the clock. Any democrat who is not moved to march and/or donate after listening to Dean's Sacramento Speech is a dead democrat. Any 'puke who is not worried is a dead 'puke.
Give 'em Hell Howard!
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MissMarple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-09-05 08:06 PM
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30. Exactly right. Go on ahead, as the boy child was wont to say.
They will look like the overreaching twits that they are. Shall we help them on their way?
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cestpaspossible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-10-05 01:16 AM
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38. Pardon my ignorance.. is he a talk show host or something? nt
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