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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 07:46 PM
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Say what you want about Trippi
Edited on Tue Feb-08-05 07:51 PM by WilliamPitt
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Emboldened Chimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 07:50 PM
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1. The cell phone alert is slick...
I'd do something like if I were running a campaign. Do what you can within reason to win. Otherwise the other guy (or gal) will.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 07:54 PM
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3. That was what I picked up on. Why can't we do this kind of thing to get
them to put on more Dems or more Dem shows?

We will reward them with huge ratings.
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 07:54 PM
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2. As someone...
...who was subscribed to the alerts, the only caveat I'd put is seeing if there were a way to prevent others in the group from "reply to all" by default. The spammers and flamebots got pretty irritating for a lot of Dean supporters (kinda like 3am phone calls the night before the caucus) and I'm sure many unsubscribed rather than figure out how to change their settings to prevent that sort of thing.

But I give props to Trippi for the things he was on the mark about, but I also think he let the thing with Gephardt get "personal" for him, which did the campaign a disservice.

We'll see how it all rolls out over time I'm sure...
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 07:55 PM
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4. Shucks, I just got an email when Dean would be on.
Not signed with cell phone thingy. Then I would pass it on to our email list.

Trippi is becoming a tool for sure now that Dean is looking good for chair.

Maybe others are as well.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 07:56 PM
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5. In fact, they always posted it at the blog as well. Still do.
Not sure I understand how that is different than the cell phones.
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ultraist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 07:59 PM
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6. If you are not in front of your computer, the blog doesn't do you any good
Emails are better because you can receive them ANYWHERE you happen to be via your phone or your Blackberry.
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cestpaspossible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 08:00 PM
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7. Say what I want about Trippi?
OK. His comments on MSNBC lack insight, his stewardship of the Dean campaign (based on the results of his efforts) was a failure, and I get the impression (it's only an impression) that he is an egomaniac who likes to take credit for what other people have done.

Other than that, I like him.

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ultraist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 08:09 PM
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8. Oh....come on now, William Pitt does have a point:
excerpts:
http://forum.truthout.org/blog/story/2005/2/8/184539/8666

"All that notwithstanding, it must be noted that the man has serious skills. An article in yesterday's Daily Pennsylvanian has this bit:

In addition to using the Internet for Dean's benefit, Trippi exploited the deep penetration of cell phones throughout America.

"Prior to Dean's appearance on Meet the Press or Hardball, we would send out a text message to all 650,000 members of our network," he said. "Four hundred thousand of them would tune in and dramatically spike the show's ratings, which was noted by all of the networks."

Trippi further compared the impact of the Internet on politics to television's effect on elections.

That's just damned sharp operating. This kind of thing can't be something that happened once in a campaign and then wasn't repeated. Memo to Progressive Democrats of America: Go to school on Trippi in this matter."
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cestpaspossible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 08:13 PM
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12. You mean my post didn't make you smile, even a little bit?
I'll have to work on my delivery.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 08:37 PM
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17. It made me smile
:)

See?
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 08:20 PM
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15. I like your comments.
:hi:
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 08:20 PM
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16. I think you're wrong on all counts
And I frankly find the anti-Trippi animus as curious, disturbing and irrational as I find the anti-Dean animus. :shrug:
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 08:10 PM
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9. I think Trippi is showing bad taste now in things he says about Dean.
I don't know if it is intentional or not. It was not good to say it in the book, and there is only his word of it. Dean denies that and always has.

I admire Dean for refusing to open the records that were actually closed. After all the fuss, it turned out to be only 1/3 of what the press was yelling about.

Joe Trippi seems to be trying to get a lot of attention to himself, and he using Dean to get a lot of it.

As Howard Dean said, he has been very good about not talking about Joe Trippi. I have the exact quote. Maybe someday he will.

It is not just Trippi, because I think it wrong to kiss and tell after a campaign. He sure had his faults as well.
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 08:12 PM
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11. kiss and tell...
...like who, Beth Cahill? Am I spelling that right?
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 08:19 PM
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14. Anyone. From any campaign.
If they do it is to cast blame from themselves usually. I think that is Mary Beth Cahill who refer to, but I don't know anything about her. There are others as well who have profited from Dean's campaign, and I suppose there will be more. The photographer for the campaign comes to mind, and the pollster Maslin.

Trippi has lost my respect since I saw True Believers, and since I learned from an article he did not return phones calls as he should have at crucial times.

I don't like to hear anyone talking out about any of the campaigns.
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ultraist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 08:18 PM
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13. I agree, that's just bad form
Turning on someone after you have been part of their inner circle is down and dirty, unless of course you discover something horrific about the person that needs to be disclosed. Where is the respect for confidentiality?

Trippi devised some innovative ways to network grassrooters, I will give him that, but I do NOT support this ongoing Dean bashing. Especially now that Dean is our DNC Chair. What is Trippi trying to accomplish with this?
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 08:10 PM
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10. Oh....he's kind of a "fun person." I think as a Campaign Op...he's kind
of more affable than some of the rest of the folks...like those whom Kerry hired...:D
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patricia92243 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 08:58 PM
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18. are Trippi and Dean friends again?
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-08-05 10:03 PM
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19. Say what I want: Smart guy but NO professional integrity.
Some of us work in professions and business that require discretion and confidentiality. Political consulting gives the consultant exposure to many, many secrets, stress reactions, and off-the-cuff remarks. Where in the world does Trippi get off presenting his former client, Dean, in a negative lite. When you have a client who treats you well and pays you and you then turn around and disrespect or disparage that client, you have NO professional integrity.

Has Dean been putting down Trippi? For Trippi to say ANYTHING negative about Dean is a breach of trust by a consultant.

I can't imagine how anyone would trust Trippi again short of a hard-core non disclosure agreement.

Dean put himself out there, took the very hard hits, busted his ass. He was the product from start to finish. Any techniques developed by Trippi would have been useless had Dean not been the man of the hour. How does Trippi return Dean's sacrifice to make him (Trippi) look good; by betraying the trust.

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