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Ivote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 08:46 PM
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Did I Hear On Countdown That GHWB Is DEEP THROAT
Story will be in a California paper on Sunday. Forgot which one.
Stay tuned
:kick:
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 08:48 PM
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1. Anymore information?
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candle_bright Donating Member (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 08:49 PM
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2. What exactly
was said?
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peacebird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 08:51 PM
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3. details, please?
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Ivote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 08:53 PM
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8. Kieth was Naming all suspects
He said it will break on sunday
He will report more on mon
I didnt tape it
I went to his site and the transcript wont be up until mon
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 09:01 PM
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15. This is Hard-Ball, and I don't mean Tweety's show.
Rest assured, the hard-drive on this issue has been de-gaussed.
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 08:51 PM
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4. I've heard that before, though that doesn't mean it's true,

just that the idea has been around for some time.

Some Jungian synchronicity: I just started watching Oliver Stone's "Nixon" on TiVo. Cue the creepy-sounding music!
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 09:31 PM
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22. Speaking of "Nixon"
have you seen the one with Anthony Hopkins? That was on last night and I really like the movie. :)
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 11:45 PM
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45. That's what I'm watching -- I recorded it with my TiVo last night.

Intense and depressing. I need to listen to good music of the time and look at our family photos tomorrow as an antidote to thinking the Nixon years were total gloom and doom. We were newlyweds and new parents back then so there are a lot of good memories, though politically the best memory is of the huge headline NIXON RESIGNS.

Oliver Stone really delivers with "Nixon" like he did with "JFK," and Anthony Hopkins is always good. I'm at the part in the movie where he's having the creepy talk with Dick Helms (played by Sam Waterston.)

Wonder how many others watched "Nixon" last night?
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 08:51 PM
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5. What a pussy!!! If that's true. I was hoping it would be a career
civil servant, which would make sense. If this is proven, slam dunk, there might be some blood letting in the GOP. I wonder, randomly, if the viscious nature of the old-right attacks on * are based, in some part, on knowledge or belief in this.

Paul Craig Roberts (major right conservative author, figure):

"Americans have been betrayed. Sooner or later Americans will realize that they have been led to defeat in a pointless war by political leaders who they inattentively trusted. They have been misinformed by a sycophantic corporate media too mindful of advertising revenues to risk reporting truths branded unpatriotic by the propagandistic slogan, "you are with us or against us."

http://www.lewrockwell.com/roberts/roberts89.html
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itzamirakul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 09:45 PM
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25. The bitch was also in Texas on the day that Kennedy was
assassinated and he was with the Saudis on 911.

Gets around doesn't he?
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 08:52 PM
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6. A Link
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 08:54 PM
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10. I consider E&P to be very reliable.
Wow.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 10:00 PM
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28. This juicy...He just the type to be deep throat...
Same politics bushitlers play today. Dirty murderous lieing bunch of scoundrels, theiving bitches!
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Democrat Dragon Donating Member (699 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 10:57 PM
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31. more proof
that the GOP is a mafia. Anyone who is an embarrsment or a threat is backstabbed.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 08:53 PM
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7. If the voice was anything like in the flick...
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...

Think about it. Hal Holbrook played him in the movie. That voice.

:wow:
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Edgewater_Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 08:54 PM
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9. I Heard He Was Also In Dallas For You-Know-What
On the grassy knoll.

Allegedly.

I REPEAT FOR THOSE WHO MAY BE WATCHING -- AL-LED-GED-LY.
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 09:04 PM
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16. regardless of what you've heard
Poppy has always said 'he doesn't remember where he was on that day in November in Dallas'...

:eyes:

dp
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gordianot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 11:04 PM
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33. Nixon also said the same thing did not remember......
however he had several different versions of that story depending on his mood.

Lots of reprobates in Dallas that day.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 11:07 PM
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36. Give me a fucking break!
Edited on Fri Feb-04-05 11:13 PM by Husb2Sparkly
EVERYone alive and cognitive on that day knows EXACTLY where they were, even after all these years. I can close my eyes and see it all as if it were yesterday.

On its very face such a claim is a fucking lie.

But then .... what else would we expect from one of "them"

:shrug:
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 11:38 PM
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43. Oh yeah, NOBODY remembers where they were that day.
:eyes: is right.

NGU.


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Zen Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 12:49 AM
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49. Unfortunately for him, the FBI memos DO remember ...
Edited on Sat Feb-05-05 12:54 AM by Zen Democrat
And in the report that "reputable businessman George Bush of Houston" had turned in information on 11/22/63 that someone in Houston had threatened the life of President Kennedy, the memo informs that Bush advised he would "return" to Dallas and remain at the Adolphus Hotel. The telephone call from Bush to the FBI that day was placed in Athens, Texas -- about 45 minutes from Dallas. And the phone call was placed about an hour and a half after the assassination. Looks like Bush left Dallas after the hit, drove to Athens (home of Clint Murchison), called the FBI with bogus information, and advised that he was returning to Dallas.

So even if Poppy doesn't exactly remember ... the FBI Memoranda tells the story. Also, I recall that Barbara has stated that she was in Dallas with George W. that day.

Then there's the little matter of J. Edgar Hoover's memorandum stating that the FBI had briefed "George Bush of the CIA" on the status of the assassination investigation. George said it must be "another" George Bush. Turns out there was another George Bush working at the CIA at the time, but he was a low-level staffer who publicly stated that this was not HIM and that he was never in a position to be briefed about anything! The fact that George H.W. Bush was subsequently named Director of the CIA by Warren Commissioner Gerald Ford tells me something.
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 01:45 AM
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55. the bushes are all demon seeds, it seems ....
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 09:05 PM
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17. Yeah, But He Said....
He can't remember what he was doing the day Kennedy got shot!!!

WOW! Is THAT believable???

The Bushies are ALL CORRUPT!! Who knows, this could be true, but WHY??

Bob Woodward isn't exactly on the Dems side. Everytime I've seen him on anything lately, he rarely criticizes ANY BUSH!!!

On the other hand, Bernstein is a long ball hitter and makes no bones about where he stand regarding BUSHIES!!
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 09:33 PM
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23. I thought on that day
he was in Dallas but left around the Kennedy shooting?
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 10:36 PM
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30. I'm sorry, but everybody who was alive in America
on 11/22/63 remembers what they were doing. I was in Mrs. McCafferty's English class at South Houston High School.
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Zen Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 12:56 AM
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50. South Houston High School in Pasadena?
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 01:32 AM
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54. You bet - are you from there?
I was down for my 40th class reunion last summer. Do I know you?
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 08:55 PM
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11. Didn't see Countdown tonight, but that is floating around.
I have always heard that CIA-men G.H.W. Bu$h, James Baker, and Robert Mosbacher were the bag-men for Nixon's plumbers. That these corrupt Texas politicians perhaps played a big role in Watergate surprises me not one whit. Nor would it surprise me if it were proved that Poppy Bu$h had a hand in JFK's assassination. He is an evil, evil man .. Poppy.

http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0QgAAAJIVE59CQah1t!N5vrta5c9v6cZ6bbDajakGOE!QCMlgr6SrsZikvVqBMEkPewP6G6lQps9Njgzwo8XKIbuOoYYM5y7WfWZ4spsrM1k/Ken-Lay-%26-Bushes.jpg
GHWB greets Ken Lay (Bu$h-2 in foreground)



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Ivote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 08:58 PM
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12. Could This Be The Tetonic Plate
Edited on Fri Feb-04-05 08:59 PM by Ivote
that Josh Marshall was talking about.
Sweet revenge for Plame
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 09:23 PM
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19. In the words of the immortal Beatles ...
Let It Be.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 12:14 AM
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47. No...Josh's Tectonic Plate was the Italian who forged Yellow Cake
Documents. Article was killed on 60 Minutes because of AWOLGATE story...so it never aired, unfortunately..
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 10:01 PM
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29. Speaking of Mosbacher .. I've got some great stories.
I've known that asshole for a long time. And his second ex-wife, Georgette (La Prairie Cosmetics). Remind me some night to lube-up and tell all. Not tonight, though.


Georgette (rack and all)

Oh! Remember? Georgette Mosbacher supported John McCain in 2000. Over that, her asshole ex, Robert, cut off her $32,064-a-month tax-free alimony. Georgette took that shit to court.


Mossbacher - philanderer
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Zen Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 01:00 AM
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51. Let me know when you're in the mood to talk about the Mosbachers ...
I've had some dealings with Lil' Rob.
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 09:00 PM
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14. That's long been speculated.
Nixon had been loyal to the Bush Criminal Empire literally from the beginning. His first high profile job was as an attorney for Prescott's nazi pals who he helped emigrate from Germany to the US. Grandpa Bush then introduced Tricky Dick to his "golfing buddy" Ike Eisenhower and created the first BCE presidency (as every Republican ticket since has been) .

Through the Vietnam war and the massive protests against it, Nixon had become paranoid and had people under surveillance constantly. I have heard that Poppy thought Nixon's mental state was a liability he couldn't afford, given the fact that Dick knew Bush family secrets going back to the Bay of Pigs invasion, and it's operational sequel in Dallas Texas (where both Poppy and Dick were on 11-22-63, oddly enough)

So with Nixon disgraced, who would listen to him? Although he had started to redeem his public image shortly before his death. He should have spoken out in the early 90's when he knew he had nothing left to lose.
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Vox_Reason Donating Member (589 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 09:55 PM
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27. Holy @#$%@#%
If all of that actually came out, Poppy was exposed as Deep Throat, and the BFEE was completely exposed, before all the dominoes fell we could easily see Chimpy on the lawn waving the V for victory signs in the helicopter doorway.

Wow.
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 09:08 PM
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18. OOPS....
I posted the SAME info just ahead of me. Sorry, I was just getting ahead of MYSELF!!

So Sorry!

But I too wouldn't put a thing past any of them. The S--T just keeps on dropping! Wonder when the flies will land and proliferate their world with MAGGOTS????
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demgrrrll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 09:30 PM
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21. That would partially explain why Woodward is such a Bush kiss ass.
Makes sense. Is this part of the rumbling about the document drop on Watergate?
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 09:30 PM
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20. GHWB is like Kaiser Sose! n/t
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 09:40 PM
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24. All conspiracies begin in Texas.
It appears from a distance to be in-breeding.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 09:52 PM
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26. How the hell will they spin this one???
Is spinning even possible? Daddy Bush took down the president of his own party? Oh man. Would this be sweet. I cannot believe the BFEE would let this info be released.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 11:29 PM
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40. Well, they'll make it out to seem as though the Bush's are
above reproach.

Rovarian spin, "Obviously, Nixon was an evil-doer and should have been taken down, regardless of party, and that was the right thing for Herr Bush, excuse me, President Bush 41 to do. So you see, folks, we Republicans of the Bush Party are ALWAYS right!"

That said, I don't think Prescott's boy has/had the guts to do it. I think it was someone else.

Woodward and Berstein said they would only reveal the source once he was dead. And, unless they're psychic and KNOW Bush 41 is going to die on Sunday, I don't think it's him.
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cosmicdot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 07:38 PM
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62. 'saviors' of democracy and 'protectors' of our democratic republic
Edited on Sun Feb-06-05 07:39 PM by cosmicdot
patriots to our Nation ... to add tail winds to dimson**'s 2nd term agenda and I'm-a-media-creation image ...

if we're speculating ...

with the Media in their pocket, anything and everything seem possible

DT might have been a figment of someone's imagination ... a bluff to assist in bringing Nixon down ... a major ace in the hand to pull out and fill-in-the-blank for greatest impact when needed the most ...

if it was Poppy ...

... he did Nixon in, just like he had done in JFK and RFK ... just like he did Jimmy Carter in while in Paris (do the Iranians indeed have a recording of the October Surprise meeting?), and Reagan's assassination attempt ... I conjecture the BFEE has long been plotting its power climb in order to 'get back' for what happened to the family in the '30s ... retribution and retaliation ... he was placed in the CIA with an agenda ... I think in his young days, he was similar to dimson** ... the only reason he appears to be better is that he actually was involved in gov't and politics his whole life, and not sometime after he turned 40 ... he had a longer career to hone his speaking skills, etc.

how does one confirm an anonymous DT? in 'All the President's Men', weren't the reporters making 3 phone calls to confirm a story? ... who are we going to call?

the name L. Patrick Gray has been suggested in another thread



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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 10:59 PM
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32. Some heavy shit is going to be going down if they are releasing this
:think:
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gordianot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 11:06 PM
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35. Right
Edited on Fri Feb-04-05 11:07 PM by gordianot
Digging up old dirt. Junior has rattled some cages for Poppy to be threatened.
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John_H Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 11:04 PM
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34. Makes sense that he would allow his name to be released now.
The rethugs and the GOP media will make him--and by extension the chimp--to be honest country saving heroes.
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gordianot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 11:09 PM
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37. There a a lot of Republicans who are still pissed about this.
This is a real bad memory for some.
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 11:23 PM
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38. But it's Havill's "claim," or guess
Doesn't mean it'll be proven, but it'd be very interesting to see whether Woodward responds by saying, "No no it wasn't him" or "no comment." It won't be known for certain until they're all deceased.

(Wasn't John Dean about to make public his own guess on the identity a couple of years ago, and then he suddenly backed down? Did he ever tell who he thought it was?)
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stpalm Donating Member (734 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 11:28 PM
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39. I'm diggin' this stuff! I love the mystery
I really do, the deep throat mystery has always intruiged me, and it is the only cool mystery around that doesn't involve murder, so it's not sick to be interested... I love the conspiracy theories and stuff, it's so much fun! I love this, keep it up, guys!
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 11:40 PM
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44. I always thought it was Kissinger.
And, he's not dead, yet.

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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 11:32 PM
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41. wouldn't it be funny if GHWB had his eldest son running errands ...
Dubya lurking around in that underground parking garage -- too weird! Although, if the video clips from Moore's film are any indication, he didn't affect the "cowboy" accent and clothes when he was younger. (He would have been in his twenties when Watergate unfolded.)
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Zen Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 01:04 AM
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52. That would be about the time he left the Guard and moved to the Northeast
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 11:36 PM
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42. He always was a sneaky little shit.
They're a whole family of sneaky little shits. A crime family. Have I mentioned tonight how much I detest these people?

NGU.


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Negatron Donating Member (70 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 12:00 AM
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46. I have no idea if there is any substance to this...
Edited on Sat Feb-05-05 12:01 AM by Negatron
But if there is, and I was one of those who plans to expose it, I would be spending my life savings and taking cash advances on the Visa card to pay for bodyguards. I have trouble believing that this could be true, because if it is, how could the BFEE allow it to be exposed? If this is true, those who plan to expose it had better be investing in the personal services of Steven Segal and Jean-Claude Van Damme. Just the idea that anyone could expose this tends to suggest that is isn't tue. If it were true, would the BFEE allow even the rumor to surface?

Then again, the PNAC has a public website with their whole agenda in plain view, so who knows...
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NEOBuckeye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 12:16 AM
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48. George Herbert Walker Bush is a nasty, nasty man
If you could ever open the books on that slimy criminal bastard, the things you would find would very likely shake the United States to its' very foundation. He's hardly the "kindly grandfather" that he attempts to portray himself to the public as being.

http://www.onlinejournal.com/Books___Reviews/Dowbenko060401/dowbenko060401.html

All I can say is that the world will be much better off once that old piece of shit is finally dead and gone. People should line up for miles to stomp on his grave for the crimes he and his cronies committed against the US and the entire world.
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Zen Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 01:10 AM
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53. Woodward once stated that Deep Throat was physically similar in
looks, build and age to the Hal Holbrook portrayal in "All the President's Men." Also stated that Deep Throat had been in the US Navy. I think that eliminates Kissinger as a suspect ... but does point the finger at Poppy.
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rfkrfk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 08:08 AM
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58. could be misinformtion
an audio tape, would be different.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 08:49 AM
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61. My thoughts exactly; if it was Poppy, the voice was dead on. nt
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 06:04 AM
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56. YOU KNOW IT BUCKEYE
BUSH I IS ONE EVIL BASTARD
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joeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 07:43 AM
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57. bush + deepthroat google search was not a good idea
more porn sites than watergate. I will modify my research strategy.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 08:37 AM
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59. GHW Bush was in porn????
Ewww!
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Califooyah Operative Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 08:43 AM
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60. haha. nt
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BlueInRed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 07:43 PM
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63. ROFL
Edited on Sun Feb-06-05 07:51 PM by BlueInRed
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