It's the first anniversary of Dean's scream.

[UrbScotty]

Discuss.

[NYCGirl]

1. Gee, is it too late to send flowers?

:evilgrin:

[gWbush is Mabus]

2. ih8themedia

[BlueEyedSon]

3. "The scream that may not have been"

A (Rovian?) media smear-job.

First hit on google.com:

The Dean Scream: The version of reality that we didn't see on TV
The scream that may not have been

By ABC News/WABC/abc12
New York — It was the scream Howard Dean says became famous after the media played it nearly 700 times in a few days. Not only that, his camp adds, what we heard on the air was not a reflection of the way it sounded in the room.

Diane Sawyer's script: After my interview with Dean and his wife in which I played the tape again -- in fact played it to them -- I noticed that on that tape he's holding a hand-held microphone. One designed to filter out the background noise. It isolates your voice, just like it does to Charlie Gibson and me when we have big crowds in the morning. The crowds are deafening to us standing there

But the viewer at home hears only our voice.

So, we collected some other tapes from Dean's speech including one from a documentary filmmaker, tapes that do carry the sound of the crowd, not just the microphone he held on stage. We also asked the reporters who were there to help us replicate what they experienced in the room.

Reena Singh, ABC News Dean campaign reporter: "What the cameras didn't capture was the crowd."

Garance Franke-Ruta, Senior Editor, American Prospect: "As he spoke, the audience got louder and louder and I found it somewhat difficult to hear him."

Dean's boisterous countdown of the upcoming primaries as we all heard it on TV was isolated, when in fact he was shouting over the roaring crowd.

And what about the scream as we all heard it? In the room, the so-called scream couldn't really be heard at all. Again, he was yelling along with the crowd.

More: http://abclocal.go.com/wjrt/news/012904_NW_r2_group_deanscream.html

[KittyWampus]

19. Funny, Other Democrats Have Given Speeches Using Hand Held Mikes

And the point is- IT WAS A CONCESSION SPEECH!

What the fuck was Dean doing "yelling along with the crowd"?

How is this appropriate for a Concession Speech, where Dean is SUPPOSED to be addressing a NATIONAL audience?

When else has a candidate done such a rally-type speech whilst conceding a state during a NATIONAL ELECTION?

[BlueEyedSon]

24. That was not a concession speech. Sorry.

[dsc]

28. That very night Kennedy shouted at his audience

while warming it up for Kerry.

[jonnyblitz]

4. LOL. how do you know this?

did you mark it on your calender? :)

[NoPasaran]

10. It's burned into the memories

Of all us Deaniacs

[cruadin]

5. The MSM spin on the "Scream Speech" was always a ...

calculated tactic to take Dean out of the running.

I don't know what group made the decision, but a decision was clearly made that Dean was not to be the nominee. The lock-step coverage of that minor episode was ludicrous at the time, and looks even more ludicrous with the passage of time.

I'll wear my tinfoil hat if I have to, but that was a put-up job from day one.

[merwin]

7. Personally, I think the 'scream' was a good thing. Potentially embarassing

yes, but it did a good job making it known that he was passionate.

[Michigander4Dean]

13. Agreed nt

[lyonn]

23. Dean was on a roll that was unexplainable

to the powers that be/are and Dean had to be stopped as it appeared that the powers knew better than the people who to run. While watching the caucases that evening in Iowa I was real surprised how the people quickly went to rooms/areas for their candidate and few were going to Deans. Mostly Kerry and Gephardt?. Something very strange happened just days before in my opinion to diminish Dean??

[WI_DEM]

6. a year since the media smear job?

spending a week or so on something as irrelevant as a candidate trying to inspire his supporters, but spending precious little time discussing the merits of a president who lied to push this country to war. Discuss that, maybe?

[andyhappy]

8. I am screaming on the inside

[Voltaire]

9. I still got frostbite on my ass

from doing visibility events that morning in Des Moines. A year already....and everything is the same as it ever was.

[XemaSab]

38. I dunno what corner you were on

but it was -8 where we were.

our viz crew took turns hiding in the hardees.

[Tom Rinaldo]

11. Why?

Hasn't any possible "lesson" that can be drawn from the media coverage of it been milked dry by now? There was absolutely no problem with "the scream" itself in it's actual context.

To the extent that it can be "used" against Dean currently that already is being done. It comes up when he is a candidate for something. Once Dean is DNC Chair, for example, there may be a flurry of replays for a month or so and then the media will move on to attacking him for how he is actually doing his job. The hard right may never completely let go of it, just like the hard left will never forget Bush and "My Pet Goat". But most people have moved on to looking at how well Bush is or is not doing now. The same will be true of Dean.

[Michigander4Dean]

14. Just a reminder

Who owns the media?

[Freddie Stubbs]

12. Happy anniversary!

:party:

His candidacy was already toast at that point. He had just finished a distant third in Iowa and was behind in the polls in NH.

[pstans]

15. I prefer the Scream over Bu$h's evil laugh

"Need any wood?"

[DemBones DemBones]

16. Time flies when you're having fun.

Or NOT.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

17. Correction: Kerry's win. eom

[Cheswick2.0]

35. LOL, yeah and how's that working out for you?

I'd forgotten that was when the party sealed our doom for us. "Kerry's turn" indeed.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

40. Just fine thank you.

People have to recognize that some voters actually liked Bush and actually voted for him.

[KittyWampus]

18. It Wasn't The Scream- It Was His Fucked Up, Inappropriate Speech

Just like you don't tell dirty jokes while toasting the bride or air dirty laundry during a funeral... you don't give a RALLY SPEECH WHEN YOU'RE CONCECEEDING A STATE'S VOTE!.'

Dean was not just speaking to his diehard supporters... he was addressing the nation... and it was many Americans first view of him.

He was MANIC from exhaustion. His handlers should have had a small speech ready for him.

And then we can talk about how the Media actually gave Dean airtime AFTER they played his Scream. How the Media allowed him airtime to rehabilitate his image.

What other Democrat has the Media ever done this for?

NONE.

Heck, the Media even apologised to Dean. What other Dem have they done that for?\

NONE.

[Jacobin]

20. Apologized? AFTER they played their propaganda thing 500 times?

"oops, so sorry we destroyed you."

What the fuck good does that do?

How is that a favor?

[KittyWampus]

21. His Fucked Up Speech Sank Him. Dean Destroyed Himself.

stop making excuses for the fact Dean buckled under pressure... or wasn't savvy enough to give a CONCESSION SPEECH AND NOT HOLD A RALLY.

[cestpaspossible]

22. Didn't Trippi say that he was the one

who advised Dean to give a rally speech?

[cali]

26. I actually agree with you that

the speech was a mistake, but I hardly think it was the total meltdown that you and the right wingers make it out to be. He recovered from the scream speech with good humor and moved briskly on, establishing DFA and working his heart out for dems. Just out of curiosity, do you see anything good about Dean? You seem to have an almost irrational dislike of the guy.

[Cheswick2.0]

33. again with no facts....amazing

Come on CS, everyone, even the people involved, admit they went after him and he lost the primary BEFORE that speech.

I will never forgive Kerry or Clark for their part in the whole thing. Neither will ever be the democratic nominee for president again. You can bank on it.

[TLM]

36. He did both... and this has been pointed out to you.

As I recall it was pointed out to you when you were bashing him at the time. He gave his concession shortly before the rally... but it was hardly covered at all, because the media locked on to the scream and played that instead 700 times.

In what sick twisted dead set on failure world do you live in where after a single loss you DON'T raly the troops for the next primary?

[Cheswick2.0]

31. you don't even have the facts after a whole year to learn them

He gave a concession earlier. His speech was not supposed to be a concession, but a rally of the troops and it was appropriate.
Your continued attacks are pathetic given that you don't even have the facts.

[RogueTrooper]

25. some thoughts

For weeks prior to the Iowa Caucus the media, at the prompting of the Republicans, had been calling Dean the angry candidate. However, they had no proof of his anger to show the Great American Viewing Public. As the weeks went by they got more and more desperate for proof of Howard's uncontrollable temper.

Proof, or something that with, a bit of judicious editing, could be made to resemble the proof they were so desperatly looking for. The first time the sound clip of Howard Dean's Iowa concession speach it was promoted as proof of Howard's anger. However, as the clip was repeated this introduction was dropped as, let's be honest, the clip was awfull enough that people did not need to told it was awfull. This Propaganda, delivered by shock and awe, was devastatingly effective.

After a couple of days of the media gorging on their long desired evidence somebody realized that they may have been overplaying their hand a bit. Howard got a reprieve and got a chance to redeem himself in the media which, by and large, he did. I think if the NH primary was on Thursday rather than Tuesday he probably would have reclaimed his NH poll lead.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

27. 2 more days could not undo a dozen years of knowledge of both men

neighbors to New Hampshire.

[dsc]

29. Most of New Hampshire didn't know him

the part of New Hampshire he was next to had virtually no people. It would be like claiming I had some knowledge of Indiana or Kentucky politicians due to having been living in a neighboring state. With the exception of those with a national profile I couldn't pick them out of a police lineup.

[RogueTrooper]

32. His numbers were climbing NYfM

and at the rate they were climbing Dean would have been at the same poll position as Kerry on the Wednesday and by Thursday the would have been enough support to win with by a narrow margin. Dean's number took a beating after "The Scream" and they had already dipped in New Hampshire prior to the Iowa Caucuses. However, the post-scream media work that Dean did ( at the end of the week and over that weekend ) had started to see his numbers climb again. Tuesday was just too soon after the event ( and subsequent coming back ) to overhaul Kerry's lead.

[Cheswick2.0]

34. nonsense

He out polled Kerry in NH for a long time, until Kerry and the DLC staged their "stop Dean" movement.

Then the rest is history... happy four more years of bush and thank you so much for supporting the candidate guaranteed to lose to the worst President in history.

[TLM]

37. Hey chez ain't it funny..

How all the things we said about kerry rolling over for Bush and the pugs turned out to be 100% true and accurate... yet those who supported the punk still refuse to see the truth and instead opt to keep bashing Dean.

The dem dc establishment took Dean out, because they knew he wasn't going to roll over and let Bush steal the election like Kerry was going to do from day f-ing one.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

39. Iowa was the endorsement everyone was looking for

Depsite Gore, Harkin, et al. Kerry was nowhere and people had lost confidence in him. Iowa restored that confidence.

[NVMojo]

30. ...they spewed rovian marketing shit on him and it makes you wonder

what else they would have done to him if he had been the democratic nominee ....

The low standards of the Rove PR team could still hit new lows ....