Condi is really, really mifted at Senator Boxer

[katmondoo]

If looks could kill, WOW the looks Condi gave to Sen. Boxer

[underpants]

1. Link to Bush's AEI laundry list speech 2/28/03

http://www.aei.org/news/newsID.16197/news_detail.asp

[CottonBear]

2. More info please (for us cube rats!) n/t

[JDPriestly]

27. Boxer gave her best left swing!

Boxer was great. The Democrats before her were mealymouthed wimps every one, compromising with evil. Boxer pointed out that we went to war because of the lie that Saddam had WMDs. She said Condi was not truthful and gave examples, presenting quotes that proved her point. In July, Condi said that no one had ever said that Iraq would have nuclear weapons within the year. Condi quoted from statements they made when they were selling the war in which they specifically said that Hussein could have nuclear weapons within the year. She also pointed to other lies Condi has told. During the hearing Condi stated that Al Qaeda has been limited with regard to the territory in which it can operate and has been diminished, therefore, in its capacity to operate. Boxer pointed to a government report stating that terrorism has now spread to 60 countries -- showing the growth of terrorism and that terrorists are now operating in a larger territory than in the past.

Condi defended herself by pointing out the difference between "could" and "would" on the issue of her conflicting statements. She said that just showed how difficult it was to know and what problems they had with intelligence. Condi characterized the difference between Condi's statement in the hearing about the territory of the Al Qaeda and the government report as one of semantics -- the meaning of "territory," for example. Condi justified the war by pointing to the fact that the U.S. fought Hussein three times (including 1998) before, that he hid information about what happened to the WMD programs he had (not true -- see the Vanity Fair article (spring 2004, I think) on the events during the weeks before our invasion of Iraq), that he had used WMDs, that Hussein violated UN resolutions -- that Hussein paid suicide bombers, that Hussein launched missiles against Israel -- in short was a bad guy and that she is happy he is gone. (Note the similarity between these justifications and those the terrorists use to justify their violence against the West and the U.S. in particular). Then, Rice wen on the offensive, mustered her self-righteous indignation and asked Boxer not to question her integrity.

Rice -- liar, liar pants on fire. See the move, Nuremburg. If it is historically accurate, Roemer never admitted his wrongs and lies and never felt empathy for his victims. Boxer asked Rice if she had seen Fog of War and said she hopes Rice doesn't have to write a similar book in the future.

Rice was confronted by her own mistatements, inconsistencies and downright lies and showed no remorse or even embarrassment. She shields herself with academic language and flaunts her considerable knowledge, but she doesn't speak from her soul. She sounds artificial -- detached. She acknowledges the suffering of the soldiers and their families (no mention of innocent Iraqi civilians) superficially, but her "sorrow" doesn't touch your heart because she doesn't feel it in her heart. I don't think she can. I don't think she has the ability to feel real empathy for others. To quote the Rolling Stones, "There's a part that's not screwed on." (I think that's from Sympathy for the Devil, Rolling Stones -- might be wrong.)

Rice and Bush are hard-hearted, just fundamentally mean. They know no doubts. They believe that, no matter what they do, it is right. They do not question or learn compassion from their mistakes. Their only value is political victory, and the only pain they really understand is political defeat. Biden, Kerry, Feingold, the other Democrats are wonderful people, but, maybe because they are such men of character, they do not comprehend and cannot fathom the reality of the Bush administration. They are naifs -- far too trusting.

Sorry for typos. Spell check did not work. I tried to catch what I could.

[benny05]

33. Kerry Did Too

Dodd and most especially Kerry put her on the defensive, so much, that Condi pulled out her race card. It was clear how she was trying to be condenscending to Kerry, but Kerry was in her face.

If only Bush could be questioned like that.

[rodeodance]

38. missed that one-Condi pulled out her race card?

[CottonBear]

35. Thanks. Great summary! n/t

[Zinfandel]

42. Interesting commentary and personal observations...I disagree completely..

with your assessment of the spineless asshole democratic senators..."Biden, Kerry, Feingold, the other Democrats are wonderful people,"

Bullshit! These democrats are complete assholes, who only know how to kiss Bush's and the republicans collective asses!!! They are far more worried about their prestige and staying in power than doing or saying what's right-- or in getting Rove upset! WAKE UP! Let's see if these rich democratic senators can take a cue from Senator Boxer, I seriously doubt it...these senator's, are democrat clowns, with absolutely NO BALLS and should be ashamed.

They have NOTHING to lose going after Rice's lies, but try and convince the spineless democrats of this.

As I wrote in another thread...

Rove will make Boxer pay...these fuckers in power are fascist, they ONLY know bullying tactics to keep people in line. They beat you down for days, then smear & distort what you said, they lie about what your true motive is...these are fucking fascist, pigs, scum, republicans.

Boxer is from liberal California, the most liberal state in the land, we love her here...Bush has, as I read yesterday in the Chronicle, a 40% approval rating in CA and dropping...Boxer knows very well how to use the media and how Rove and his thugs in the media will go after her...Most here in CA are NOT as gullible as the rest of the country when it comes to bullshit stories in the corporate media.

Boxer will kick ass and rightfully so.

Rice is a liar and will do & say anything to stay in power, her job is to take the heat of the pig elitist Bush...watch the smokescreens coming...Rice is a pig, a sow, a lying sack of shit!!!!

[GreenArrow]

47. hey, easy...

No need to disparage good, honest sows by comparing them with Condi.

[Zinfandel]

63. Your absoluely correct!!!

[LittleClarkie]

57. I take exception to mealy mouth, and I take exception to your entire post

Boxer is not the only senator. I know she was the hero of 1/6, but let's not fit her for her papal beanie just yet.

Dodd started the ball rolling, screw-wise, followed by Kerry, who unlike the person before him actually sounded like he knew what he was talking about and challenged Condi enough to make her mad. Feingold was even better, saying he wouldn't mince words because all this was entirely too important.

Please don't stomp all over the other Dems as you praise Sen. Boxer. Good woman, but come on now. We need all those asshole Democrats you refer to. And though some might be, most are not. If you disagree, I would like you to take each one in turn and explain to me how each is an asshole.

And does that include the entire Democratic Party, even us Dems on the ground?

Please don't throw out the baby with the bathwater in your ire toward those "asshole Democrats."

[Zinfandel]

64. The democrats smooches of republican asses will speak for itself!

Just watch how many of those spineless, frightened, asshole, republican ass-kissing democrats will vote to confirm the arrogant, incompetent, lying, republican pig, Dr. Rice!!!

[LittleClarkie]

65. Your exclamation points don't scare me

and as Kerry said, she's probably going to be passed. But in the meantime, it's fun and beneficial for them to be taking her to the woodshed as they are. Several of them, not just Boxer. Kerry, Feingold, Dodd et al. I'm enjoying myself.

Oh, I almost forgot.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bow down before my passionately rendered exclamation points.

[Zinfandel]

67. And take that!!!!!

Yes, overall, a very good night at the theater for a change, don't you think?
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[LittleClarkie]

68. Indeed, it is my friend

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[GreenArrow]

45. Boxer: "Question your integrity?"

"Madam, you have no integrity."

[DireStrike]

55. Did she really? Please, say she said that.

[GreenArrow]

58. no, she didn't

I wish she had. It's what I would have said if I were Boxer. I would have further added that she, Condi, was a liar and an incompetent, and I would not have been shy about using those exact words.

It does sound like Boxer hit her pretty good, but sometimes (most of the time) I get real tired of the so-called diplomatic niceties.

[yardwork]

60. Same thing she did to the 9/11 Commission

I listened to her disgraceful behavior that day.

[molly]

3. This afternoon is going to get interesting!!!!

to say the least.

[sazemisery]

4. That happens when your own words are used against ya!

Go Sen. Boxer

[LittleClarkie]

66. Like before the election when the video was played showing Condi lied

and they used a split screen. Her face, I'm told, showed unmasked rage. Gotta love that split screen.

[Meme]

5. that was scary ha? her eyes were shooting fire n/t

[Goldeneye]

6. "Please don't impugn my character!"

I think when you lie...you are asking to have your character impugned.

edited for spelling

[ixion]

8. hmmm... don't you have to have a character, before it can be

impugned? :evilgrin:

[pbartch]

50. Yeah........you do..............CondiLIAR is a BAD Character!

[Edgewater_Joe]

9. "Oh, Sorry, Condo-LIAR --

-- but we sure as f**k WILL impugn your integrity. Why? Because YOU HAVE NO INTEGRITY!"

If she's got a problem she can cry to her husband tonight.

[mattclearing]

19. Dubya will be busy trying on crowns for Thursday.

Oh wait, they aren't married, are they?

[underpants]

10. Condi has integrity like Saddam had WMD

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1503705

[susu369]

11. You can't call me that WAAAAH

Mommie, she picked on me.

:nopity:

[pbartch]

15. I --WISH-- Barbara Boxer had said that: When you lie, you are asking to

HAVE YOUR CHARACTER IMPUNED!!!


CondiLIAR impuned her own character. SHE SAID THOSE WORDS.....no one else said them for her.

And.......CNN hasn't even put Sen Barbara Boxer's comments up on this URL. That is a crying shame. http://www.cnn.com/2005/ALLPOLITICS/01/18/rice.confirmation/index.html

[katinmn]

16. is that the best answer she could muster?

Since the facts were working against her, all she was left with was don't call me a liar.

[GreenArrow]

49. what else she gonna do?

Admit to the lies? Nope, she'll go on lying and lying and decieving for as long as she can get away with it. It's something pathological.

[TrustingDog]

22. yes Condi, you sure are a 'character'. :(

[fryguy]

24. as if she has any left TO impugn

eom

[JohnOneillsMemory]

43. Wish Boxer had retorted "if you think your own words impugn, so be it."

Because Boxer DID mean to impugn Condi's fictional integrity.

[Supersedeas]

46. Right on the money -- was it your words that I quoted that you find so

OFFENSIVE...

Well, you are not alone in being offended by those quotes.

[itcfish1]

44. Ah Excuse Me

but don't insult my intelligence Condi!

[pbartch]

56. read this post from a Yahoo message board -- Are YOU calling ME a LIAR ???

Are YOU calling ME a LIAR ?????
by: upn0rth21 01/18/05 04:17 pm
Msg: 5236 of 5456
4 recommendations

CondoLeezza showed her true colors today.

Remember back in grade school, when a bully would steal someone's lunch.

When confronted, he would try to deflect the discussion from whether or not he was a thief to whether or not you would dare to call him a liar.

Enter Condi.
She cannot defend her lies, nor her complicity in mass murder, so she lamely proclaims, "Are you questioning my integrity?"

The answer is no, Condi, we aren't questioning your integrity. You haven't got any.
==================================================================
(Here is the Yahoo article about today's hearings: http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20050118/us_nm/bush_rice_dc_16 )

[ixion]

7. give that sleaze what for, Senator Boxer

I'm glad someone is at least making an attempt to hold these creeps accountable.

[imax2268]

14. Boxer nailed Condi...

I about jumped out of my chair when I hear that *itch cry out "I ask that you refrain from trying to impugn my integrity"...

OH YEA BABY...rattled Condisleaza's cage for sure...!!!

Your words finally caught up with you Condiot didn't they...someone used your own words against you and you flinched...

buhhhwaaaaahahahahahahahahahhahahahaha...

[blueblitzkrieg]

12. Boxer just kept using Condi's own words against her

and all Condi could do was boo hoo about what a meanie Boxer was.

[cindyw]

13. That ws such a pathetic putoff. Wahhh Wahhh, I will talk to if you don't

impune my credibility, Wahhh Wahhhh. So Boxer is classic and says all I did was read your quotes. It was the great.

[saltpoint]

17. I'm sorry, but I take pleasure in Condi's being mifted at Boxer.

Senator Boxer didn't lie to the American people -- Condi did.

Boxer is doing her job, and doing it with heart and mind.

Go, Senator Boxer.

[sarcasmo]

18. Boxer is the #1 Dem now in my opinion.

Boxer has established herself as the top Dem in the party. I mean this women brings the facts and does not back down. She is giving me hope for 2008.

[lavenderdiva]

20. does anyone know if CSPAN will replay this, so those of us

who missed it, can watch? Also, which CSPAN station was it on? I am hoping that Boxer will come back just as voraciously after lunch... Does anyone else wonder if anyone else on the panel knew how pointedly she was going to go after Condi? Does anyone else wonder if Boxer will be told to tone it down? I hope she goes after her with all she's got, but I am wondering. Usually, those guys have lots of back room meetings before any of this goes to air. I would think so anyway. Just my humble opinion.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

30. yes it will be replay on c-span this evening 8PM ET, i believe but ya

BETTER CHEACK TO BE SURE

[Kolesar]

31. 2 pm eastern time today

http://www.cspan.org/

[proud patriot]

21. I know , that look was priceless

Thank You Senator Boxer .

Woo Hoo :loveya:

[MissB]

23. Good. I'm glad.

Sen. Boxer did well.

[TrustingDog]

25. how will the Mess Media handle this?

Boxer used personal attacks against Rice.
yeah, that's what they'll try to sell.

[BR_Parkway]

41. They'll jump to the very Critical issue of Ashcroft Solves Oil for Food

scandal. Gotta give OxyRush and InSanity something to bray about...

[Dr Fate]

51. Unless she goes on the shows herself & repeats the charges...

...they will down play it and then let it quietly slip away.

The only way to keep this is the fore front is for ALL Democrats to be unified and to refuse to confirm her based on "lack of credibility."

[umtalal]

26. Rice was shaking and couldn't believe someone told her off. The nerve LOL

[rodeodance]

39. oh, i am sure bush-her husband will soothe her quite well, te he

[suegeo]

28. The National SECURITY Advisor

Condi was in charge of security in Sept 2001 when obviously our security sucked. I think Condi is one of my least favorite Bush admin officials.

She is incompetent, a liar. And this ends up costing innocent people their lives.

[juajen]

32. Just a note to all of you about our Barbara

Please write to CNN, MSNB, ABC, and CBS supporting Barbara and asking for better coverage of her courageous stand for American integrity during this hearing.

We told her we would have her back if she challenged the Ohio vote. That means we support her in every way. A few emails ain't hard folks. She deserves our time and money. Go DU!!!

[caligirl]

34. thanks, I am urging this too, here is my note I posted a moment ago.

Senator Boxer(D-CA) did her job today in the hearing of Condoleeza Rice for Secretary of State. Using Ms. Rice's own words, Ms. Boxer called into question the record of Ms. Rice as National Security Advisor. Thank you Senator Boxer for showing great integrity through holding a public servent accountable for mistakes made, as Ms. Rice's record indicates.

[Dr Fate]

52. REAL Democrats deserve REAL support.

Yes- we all need to show Babs we love her & notify the media as well.

[indie_voter]

29. I can't wait to see what the Daily Show does with this! n/t

[fooj]

53. i'll be tuned in! That's for sure!

What a giggle it will be!

[Geek_Girl]

36. Is it over I thought they were going to be back on at 2

does anyone know?

[rodeodance]

37. 1:30 CT is what i was told

[Nordmadr]

40. Thet link now says 2:30 N/T

[Dr Fate]

48. If she cant defend herself against a New-Age California Liberal...

...then how can she defend us from terror??? :)

[Borgnine]

54. If Boxer ran for President in 2008, I'd vote for her in a heartbeat.

If only the rest of the Democratic Party had her spine.

[Kahuna]

62. I've always admired, Sen Boxer. I would not support her in the primaries

But if she prevailed, I would happlily and proudly cast a vote for her.

[JerseygirlCT]

59. She was looking daggers at her!

So great to see her on the edge like that. Boxer had her and would not let go.

[shanti]

61. poor babeeeee!

lol! :evilgrin: