If You Had To Choose In 2008

[DemocratSinceBirth]

[cali]

1. Not much of a choice here.

That's it? Hillary or Edwards? No thanks.

[Mirwib]

16. Edwards did not even pull his home state of NC into the Kerry camp

The question should be: Which candidate can turn some red states into a blue states.

[StopTheMorans]

18. VPs don't make a ticket; it doesn't matter

if he were at the front of the ticket; it may have been different. apples and oranges...

[German-Lefty]

2. I don't like either

Both will get attacked in ad hominid attacks. I'd rather get somebody new. I'd rather have someone like Dean, who you can respect for having convictions. Bushies would have tried to paint him as a crazy liberal, but the flip flopper thing couldn't have stuck.

[Dangerman]

3. Hillary.

Hillary is more than just a great First Lady, she is the image for the modern American women, but some Ms. Cleaver wannabe bitch like Barbara and Laura Bush. I rather see history in the making with the first woman President.

Besides, I don't trust Edwards since he gave chimpy the authorization for the Iraq "war".

[locutus]

6. Hillary or Edwards?

I LOVE Hillary and Dean for their convictions, but don't think either have a chance in 2008 at this time. The right wing (ahem...mainstream) media would have a "liberal bashing" field day with either. Maybe Kerry should think 2008? I think he addressed the "flip-flop" charged well in the first debate, but it came too late.

[cali]

19. What convictions?

Hillary proves daily that she has none. Voted for the Iraq war, for the 87 billion, and just recently for the disgusting budget bill with the restrictive abortion information amendment.

BTW, welcome to DU

[newyawker99]

27. Hi locutus!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[K to the YLE]

38. We keep saying the people we like the most don't stand a chance...

everyone is too liberal to win, but if we keep sending out middle of the road, watered down, democrats who nobody (including Democrats) finds very appealing won't we contribute to the portrayal of flip flopping, compromising chumps that the Right is trying to create? I say gimme a candidate that I can have a passion for, some one who says what they believe and stands by it no matter what the Conservatives say about him (or her) and makes the democratic part appear strong. It's not gonna be an overnight change...but I think over time it will produce better results than...well Kerry or Gore...

[Crunchy Frog]

10. Umm, correct me if I'm wrong but

I believe that Hillary gave Chimpy the exact same authorization that Edwards did.

[Zynx]

11. Hillary gave Bush enthusiastic support for the Iraq war.

Also, are you only supporting Hillary because you want a woman in the White House? That's not very pragmatic.

[fujiyama]

41. Hillary also gave authorization

for the Iraq war.

She also voted for the budget the other day. Edwards voted against it.

[mandyky]

4. Neither

Howard Dean!

[Laelth]

5. I would choose John Kerry ...

... and he'd be running for his second term.

Really, it's far too early to be thinking about 2008 yet. 2004 hasn't even been resolved.

-Laelth

[Crunchy Frog]

7. None of the above. n/t

[Leilani]

8. No thanks, I'll pass on those two.

EOM

[Zynx]

9. Edwards, though I now doubt his ability.

I think he may bw too much of a lightweight. However, Hillary would be a disaster.

[quaker bill]

12. I would seriously consider the Green Party.

Might as well support a loser that I am sure of.

[hollowdweller]

13. Edwards has that all american family man persona the Dems need to win

But he would have to surround himself with experienced advisers and pollsters and have a bunch of specific proposals to win.

[JPJones]

15. Kerry lost votes from health care providers

when he picked Edwards.

[JPJones]

14. You need 'Other' n/t

[StopTheMorans]

17. i love how multiple people don't get the phrase "if you had to choose"

:wtf:

[DemocratSinceBirth]

26. TY

Looking at it dispassionately if Kerry decides not to run that's who it might come down to...

[Scrooge]

20. I love

them both. And much as I admire Hillary, I dont think she could win.

[Stinky The Clown]

21. Neither one these two

[AntiCoup2K4]

22. Dean!

YEEEEEEAAAAAAAARRRRRRGGGGGHHHHH!

[MirrorAshes]

23. I reluctantly chose Hillary. Edwards was a huge dissapointment.

And I was all about him for VP. I was genuinely ecstatic the day he was chosen. But it was all downhill from there.

[DjTj]

40. Why was Edwards a disappointment?

I'm curious...

Was it just the electoral results? Or was there something about him personally that you had not expected?

[robbedvoter]

24. None of the above, Stay home.

[Kahuna]

25. Hillary. If we're going to lose anyway, I'd rather lose with Hillary..

who is very experienced and knowledgeable.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

28. Like choosing between an Edsel and a Yugo. Green for me.

Both "centrist" DLC'rs.

[zulchzulu]

29. Choose Loser or Loser...

Of course, both people are good people. It's just that both would lose.

[Snivi Yllom]

30. I would stay home

that's an easy but unpleasant choice

[LakeCohoon]

31. Hillary = Massacre n/t

[Zinfandel]

32. Won't even vote on this one...No choice what so ever!!!

[KnowerOfLogic]

33. Nader!

[lessthanjake]

34. Both would be sucky candidates

Hillary would lose in a landslide and edwards wouldnt do any better than kerry (he could possible get iowa but that wouldnt win it for him). He WOULD NOT get any southern states. I never expected him to win NC for kerry but i did expect him to make it closer than it had been with gore. He failed there. It was the same loss. So how would he do any better in the south?

[Progressive420]

35. If it were between those to I probably wouldn't vote in the primary at

all.

[Sparkle]

36. I wouldn't mind Sen. Clinton as his veep

[GreenArrow]

37. none of the above

.

[Yupster]

39. It's up to Hillary

If she runs, she will win the nomination easily.

I think she'd also do well in the general election.

No offense against Edwards, but I don't think he added a whole lot to Kerry's campaign.

[fujiyama]

42. Is this for being the nominee

or whom we would prefer as president?

I'd prefer Edwards on both counts. Granted, I wouldn't prefer that he be the nominee in '08, but over Hillary definetely.

Hillary would be a terrible candidate. She'd be a decent president, but I haven't been impressed with her record so far. She's really given into a lot of the Bush agenda. I don't really trust or like her.

[Clarkie1]

43. Why bother to vote in this poll? Neither would win

Seems a silly exercise in futility to me.

[Radical Activist]

44. If we want to win a few red states

the answer is easy: Edwards.

[Clarkie1]

45. You mean like North Carolina?

[Radical Activist]

46. Yep, would have been nice had the Kerry campaign made an effort there

I still can't figure out the point of putting a southerner on the ticket and then not bothering to fight for a single southern state.

[angrydemocrat]

47. Kerry will be my first choice

And from the others that might run Clark would be my second. I wanted Kerry to pick Clark this time but he istead picked Edwards. I like Edwards and all that but I still think Clark would have been a better choice than Edwards.

[erpowers]

48. Neither

Someone like Russ Fiengold should run in 2008. We need someone who is willing to fight for Democratic goals and stand up to the Republican Party. Fiengold has done that. In addition, he has pushed for campaign finance reform.

I think both John Edwards and Hillary Clinton are weak candidates in that they continually move to the center. I believe they both voted for the Patriot Act and the Iraq War. It does seem; however, that John Edwards could pick up some Republican votes. The only problem with this is the idea that if he picks up a few Republican votes would he lose some Democratic votes.

Finally, Russ Fiengold or someone like him should be picked to run for President in 2008. I do believe he could win in that he has really stood up to the Republicans and fought for Democratic ideas. In addition, he won his own and got 60% of the votes in that state. I think Fiengold should at least be encourage to enter the primaries.