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jtb33 Donating Member (490 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 11:36 AM
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Poll question: Kerry for President in 2008?
...just curious given his comments today.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/11/17/kerry.ap/index.html
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AndyP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 11:38 AM
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1. I'm from the school of thought that says
"You had your chance, it didn't work out, we need to go with someone new"
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 11:39 AM
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3. I agree
There's no way you can get everybody excited about a candidate that lost. Gore maybe could run again because he actually won (the popular vote at any rate), but no way for Kerry.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 11:40 AM
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6. Abe Lincoln would have never gotten there under your school
John Kerry did a great job. Yes there were missteps that cost us but when one considers the media he was up against and the money he was up against he did well and did a great job unifying us. Who the hell knew a candidate could win all three debates while the other candidate made Yale look like a diploma mill and the heartland states would still be fucking stupid enough to send the moron back.
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Goldmund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 11:41 AM
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10. So do you think the heartland will get smarter in the next 4 years?
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 11:42 AM
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12. So do you think we need a dumber candidate?
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Goldmund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 12:07 PM
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19. We need a candidate smart enough to get even the dumb people...
...to vote for him. Or at least one smart enough to get all of the smart people to come out for him.

If you think I'm one of those DUers who is saying that we have to "move to the center" or run a "Southern conservative Democrat" or that we need to abandon gay or abortion rights, you're dead wrong. If the Democratic party moves one inch to the right, I'll be the first to abandon it.
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demokatgurrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 12:21 PM
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21. very unlikely- probably just continue to grow stupider and stupider.
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unfrigginreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 11:38 AM
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2. Voted Hell No! but would have preferred a choice of
No Fucking Way!
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DrGonzoLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 11:39 AM
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4. Two people have lost an election only to win one later
Andrew Jackson
Grover Cleveland

No one else has been able to pull it off.
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RunningFromCongress Donating Member (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 11:40 AM
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5. Nixon
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 11:41 AM
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8. Uh...The name Richard Nixon ring a bell?
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DrGonzoLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 11:45 AM
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14. I do not acknowledge the existence of Nixon
:evilgrin:
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 11:46 AM
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15. Bah...
Nixon barely lost to Kennedy, but his two wins were both against candidates who would've been anybody's punching bag. Humphrey was a loser the moment he ran, and McGovern never stood a chance either, particularly after the press had a field day with his VP candidate.
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dogtag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 11:43 AM
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13. Nixon. (n/t)
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 11:41 AM
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7. Worst possible thing you could do.
He has now been branded a loser. This would never, in a million years, work. Has anyone EVER won the presidency after losing in the general election (other than Grover Cleveland, who had already been president once)?
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 11:41 AM
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9. Dated Dean - Married Kerry - Woke up with Bush
Not looking to get screwed like that again.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 11:48 AM
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17. Hey! Great Bumper sticker wordage!!!
:toast:
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 12:03 PM
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18. Yes, I thought so too
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demokatgurrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 12:22 PM
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22. same here.
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 11:42 AM
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11. lets wait until this election is done and gone
ill get back to you.
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goddess40 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 11:48 AM
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16. Kerry's "deafening silence"
Edited on Wed Nov-17-04 11:48 AM by goddess40
This is Goddess40's mom. David Cobb, Green Party, was just on WI Public Radio. He has won the chance for an Ohio recount. He said he was stunned with Kerry's quick conceding to Bush, especially in view of all the voter controversy. Cobb said he thinks Kerry did this because if he wants to run in 2008 he doesn't want to be viewed as a whiner and disruptive force! How about being viewed as one who rolls over?
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 12:19 PM
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20. Not sure if Kerry is necessarily rolling over...
... since it is his brother, Cam's, law firm heading the recounting in OH and other states. This time, they are making their move under the radar instead of in the media's scrutiney and giving more attention to the gloating Repugs.

Just because you don't see it hapening doesn't mean it isn't happening. I"m willing to wait to see what the final outcome is.

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proudbluestater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-17-04 12:25 PM
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23. I also heard David Cobb on Democracy Now
Edited on Wed Nov-17-04 12:42 PM by proudbluestater
I have been giving Kerry the benefit of the doubt, even when other people weren't, but after hearing David Cobb this morning I have serious doubts.

The recount in Ohio is being funded by donations to David Corn (votecorn.org) and the Libertarian party.

The recount in NH is being funded by Nader voters.

Where is Kerry? Working under the radar is fine, but apparently they are not funding anything yet he sits on 51 million that could be spent to be sure this election was fair and fraud free?

Why would anybody support a person who lets an election get stolen out from under him without so much as a whimper?

And if it is stolen again, as it was in 2000, why would anybody want to support another Democrat if they just roll over? Al Gore ran out of money with only 3 million leftover. There is no excuse for Kerry to roll over here. Nobody will support him in 2008 if he lets this pass.

Next time I will support a candidate that is out there making sure the votes are counted fairly and every vote counts. Apparently that is not John Kerry.
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