Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Approximately what time will we get results from Iowa?

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU
 
Skinner ADMIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 11:57 AM
Original message
Approximately what time will we get results from Iowa?
We're trying to figure out what to expect on DU this evening, and it would be helpful if we knew when the caucuses were over. Is there a specific time when they end?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
windansea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 12:00 PM
Response to Original message
1. check Kaus for some info Skinner
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DoveTurnedHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 12:01 PM
Response to Reply #1
3. Hey, Is SLATE F'ed Up for Anyone Else?
I try to look at Slate, and all this freaky text gets overlaid on top of the main text.

DTH
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Skinner ADMIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 12:03 PM
Response to Reply #3
7. Yeah. I just opened that page, and it's a mess. (nt)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
windansea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 12:06 PM
Response to Reply #7
8. comes up ok for me
here's part of what he says

1) The entrance poll taken under the auspices of a six large news organizations--call them Big Press--and their group, the National Election Pool. This completely unofficial count simply questions caucus-goers as they enter the caucuses at 6:30 in the evening.

2) The "pre-viability" count: Caucusers then sit through tedious minor issues and speeches before they finally divide up into groups supporting various candidates. If a candidate gets less than about 15 percent of the vote--or higher in some caucuses, as determined by to (needless to say) a complicated formula--that candidate's supporters are declared "non-viable" and must disperse. But for a brief, shining moment, before this "non-viability" is declared, the various groupings give a clear idea of the actual preferences of caucus-goers.

3) The "realigned" or post-viability count: Then the caucusers in non-viable groups go to their second choices, or to an "undecided" group. or to the "viable" candidate whose success will most screw the candidate they want to beat. Once all the non-viable candidates' votes have been vaporized and all the remaining groups are big enough to pass muster, you get another count--which is then immediately forgotten, because it is only used as the basis for calculating the delegate count.

4) The delegate count is derived from the realigned count --#3--but isn't necessarily an exact reflection thanks to yet more arcane rules--like the one requiring that every "viable" candidate get one delegate, or a rule penalizing precincts with low turnouts in previous years.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 12:18 PM
Response to Reply #3
12. worked for me
lots of interesting info there, might want to check it out again. :)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
zanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 12:00 PM
Response to Original message
2. 10:30, according to CNN
They said they should have the results by then.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DoveTurnedHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 12:01 PM
Response to Reply #2
4. Eastern? Or Iowa Time? (eom)
DTH
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 12:10 PM
Response to Reply #4
9. 10:00 p.m., EST.
Just heard it on the local U. of I. radio station's newscast.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 12:01 PM
Response to Original message
5. i saw a CNN show where they guesstimated 2 rounds of cuacussess
first instruction and a letter - 20 minutes

then two rounds of caucus (picking sides) 1/2 hour each


they telephone in the results with the phone keypad and data is collected.

so if they start at 7:30 EST...it could be 9- 9:30 ish (EST)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 12:03 PM
Response to Original message
6. About 10:00 p.m., EST.
Edited on Mon Jan-19-04 12:03 PM by Cuban_Liberal
I just now heard the time on WILL-AM's news. :)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dontomas Donating Member (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 12:16 PM
Response to Original message
10. According to the NYT...
The results should be in at 10 pm central.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 12:18 PM
Response to Original message
11. A series of numbers will be reported
This poly sci prof at Kos has some dope:
snip>
Voters will first have to parade through the media and entrance pollsters (which is the first result that you will hear); then herd themselves into a corner of group of likeminded people, and join the cause (this is the second tally number that you will hear); and then begins the process of debate, with each candidates precinct captains delivering speeches (for as long as they want) to convert others, and debate, bargaining, offerings to mow lawns -who knows- all happening. And then, after a couple of hours, the final groups are formed and their percentages are determined (this is the third tally you will hear); finally, the percentages will translated into delegates (this is the final result you will hear-- and the only one that matters).

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/1/19/164420/603

With the 6:30 central start time, maybe those first numbers come shortly? Sounds like an "entrance poll"
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bhunt70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 12:24 PM
Response to Original message
13. Who is Kaus? I find his preferences interesting.
"P.P.S.: Some emailers--not many!--have asked about my preferences. Right now,they are, in order: Edwards / Dean / Gephardt / Lieberman / a Bush-Clark tossup / the complete telephone books of all major American cities / Kerry. ...I'm a character voter, not an "issues" voter. Candidates will change their current "issues" positions after the election. New issues will crop up. The best handle we have to predict how a candidate will actually perform in office is character. ..."


I seriously dont know who he is (which doesnt make the information on the Iowa caucus invalid- just wondering what his deal is).
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
windansea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 12:27 PM
Response to Reply #13
14. he's a writer
and is credited with starting the first blog
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bhunt70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 12:37 PM
Response to Reply #14
15. first ever, or first political blog?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
windansea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-04 12:43 PM
Response to Reply #15
16. first ever I think n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Sat May 04th 2024, 04:30 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC