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TruthIsAll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 09:53 AM
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WHAT'S THE MATTER WITH FLORIDA AND OHIO?
Edited on Sat Nov-13-04 10:41 AM by TruthIsAll
They both deviated from Kerry in the 4pm Exit Polls to Bush in the actual vote. By a lot. Why?

The other states shown in the graph didn't. Why not?

In the other 10 states, Kerry deviated by a total of -3%, or -0.3% on average.
In FL and OH, Kerry deviated by -4%, or -2% on average.

In the other 10 states, Bush deviated by a total of +5%, or +.5% on average.
In FL and OH, Bush deviated by +5%, or +2.5% on average.

There is something rotten in the states of FL and OH.

Oh, I forgot. Bush needed to win BOTH states to win the election.
To do this he had to beat 667 to 1 odds.

He had a choice.
He could hope to get VERY lucky and win the Trifecta or...





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InvisibleTouch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 09:55 AM
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1. What's the matter with Ohio? Kenneth Blackwell.
What's the matter with Florida? Jeb Bush.

They've got their people in all the key positions that allow them to manipulate the votes. The exit polls were right. The results were just wrong.
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 09:58 AM
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2. YES. n/t
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 10:01 AM
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3. ask the media WTF happened...they buriied thier GD heads in the sand
mo balls to ask the tough questions... it was hijacked until somebody can share the reason for the deviation !
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 10:47 AM
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6. The tv media changed the exit polls to conform with the stolen vote =
Edited on Sat Nov-13-04 10:48 AM by higher class
anyone questioning them?

Remember how you felt when you woke up and they told you that the exit polls swung to Bush?

Examine. Question. Fight.

It may be that our tv media who paid for the polls ripped us off even bigger than in 2000 - for which they have apologized. Big deal with that apology.
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AVID Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 10:03 AM
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4. Was it a MASSIVE, statewide dem GOTV failure?
Edited on Sat Nov-13-04 10:04 AM by AVID
If democrats quit voting after 4, the spike in * late in the day is understandable.

Can we hear form some of the GOTV people in FLA and OH? What is their story?
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InvisibleTouch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 10:10 AM
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5. Most Dem voters arrived after work, in my experience.
Of the people I talked to (Franklin County, Ohio), only two said they'd be in line bright and early at 6:30. Everyone else said they couldn't make it until after work. So there's no way Dem turnout suddenly dropped off in the afternoon. If anything, the lines got longer and longer as the evening wore on - and people were still arriving up until the last second. While I can't say for sure who those last-moment arrivals were voting for, the precinct I was at was known to be heavily Democratic. Draw your own conclusion....
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The Wielding Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 10:54 AM
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7. Quite a discrepancy. Seems like a problem there. who is checking it?
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Tennessee Gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 11:01 AM
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9. Here is some great info
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TruthIsAll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 12:59 PM
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12. Plenty of people are checking it, including a Professor
at Univ. of PA who calculated the odds at 250 million to one against the Exit Polls deviating to Bush.

I calculated the odds at 187 million to ONE.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 12:05 PM
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11. Hi AVID--I'm going to steal and propogate (by me only)
Edited on Sat Nov-13-04 12:29 PM by librechik
your wicked animation. LOVE IT. and it goes with my Impeach Bu$h avatar.

Thanks!
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Tennessee Gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 11:00 AM
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8. On election day...............
I was watching MSNBC in the late afternoon or early evening. Everyone, and I mean EVERYONE including the Bush people, were behaving as if Kerry was going to win. Suddenly a shift occurred. The Bush people started spouting the line that the exit polls were wrong and the whole bunch started spinning it that way.

FISHY, INDEED!
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Puglover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 11:20 AM
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10. It also doesn't
help when our own liberal folks i.e. Al Franken and Ed Schultz are doing everything they can do to get people off this.
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TruthIsAll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 08:16 PM
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13. Al Franken: What a wimp.
tia
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