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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 06:21 PM
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Bush Moves to Privatize Social Security
Edited on Wed Nov-10-04 06:23 PM by BrentTaylor
Can Kerry get on PrimeTime TV somewhere and say "I told ya so"

Ya know since all he was doing was using scare tactics

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20041110/ap_on_go_pr_wh/second_term_social_security&cid=536&ncid=536
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 06:28 PM
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1. Finally, the AP dares to use the word "privatize" instead of "reform"
I hope the AARP gets up in arms about this one, but then again they weren't that effective against the crap prescription drug plan so perhaps they'll just roll over again.
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BlueJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 06:35 PM
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2. This is Fantasic News
Bush Privatizes Social Security.
Bush ruins the Economy by being "Bush"
Social Security Dollars are now worth next to nothing.
Bush talks about Queers in 2006
Americans Elects more Republicans

America!...What a Country
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 06:43 PM
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3. That article is providing us with AMMO against the plan
Here:

A starting point is a plan proposed by a presidential commission in 2001 that would divert 2 percent of workers' payroll taxes into private accounts. The remaining 4.2 percent — and the Social Security taxes employers pay — would go into the system, helping fund benefits for current retirees. That leaves a shortfall of at least $2 trillion to continue funding benefits for those current retirees.


And here:

For future retirees, base benefits would be cut by tying them to inflation instead of wage growth, with stock market gains assumed to make up any shortfall. The concept gained support in the stock market boom of the late 1990s.

Bush has not said how the $2 trillion transition costs would be funded, nor did his commission. Record deficits, Bush's desire to make his five rounds of tax cuts permanent and the rising cost of war in Iraq (news - web sites) and Afghanistan (news - web sites) are major obstacles.


Also check this out:

He said the yearly price tag of $80 billion to $100 billion could be funded by closing tax loopholes, cutting pork barrel spending, borrowing money or temporarily raising the payroll tax cap on earnings.


I doubt that'll happen. The corporatists don't want to pay more taxes, and they most certainly don't want the tax loopholes closed. This is a setup. When the corporations/special interests put their foot down, the end result is these structural reforms won't happen, and the system will be even worse than what it could be under present situations. Then they could claim the answer to the crisis is to let the private sector run the system, since the government is so radically inefficient at running it.
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Bleacher Creature Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 06:57 PM
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4. Shhhhhh!!!! He's "reforming" Social Security.
Didn't you guys get that memo??
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Mike L Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 07:07 PM
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5. The old Farts that voted for Chimp will have heart attacks.
"What? I was voting against those gays. You say he's cutting my Social Security?"

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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 07:08 PM
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6. or Gore should
tell how he would've put it in the 'lock box' they all thought that was funny but I bet they will be wishing Gore had it locked upsafe and sound for them now.x(
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tommcintyre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-15-04 04:35 PM
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7. Just another way to transfer funds from poorer to richer.
When the stocks go down, and the poorer have to sell, the richer pick up the bargains because they can afford to wait until it goes up again. Transfer complete.
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