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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 08:43 PM
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Does ZOGBY Think There Was Fraud? Read This And You Decide
Edited on Tue Nov-09-04 08:43 PM by Beetwasher
He didn't write it, but he's publishing it on his website:

Votergate 2004; We Don't Need Paper to Prove Fraud, But We Do Need Money and Leadership, NOW.

Since last Tuesday there has been a justifiable uproar about the major differences between the exit polls in Ohio and Florida and the actual results. Democrats and Republicans, who both saw the same exit polls that showed an electoral landslide in favor of Kerry, have confirmed this. Investigative reporter Bob Parry confirmed from his sources that the Bush campaign was convinced they were going to lose. George H. W. Bush also confirmed this in an interview with The Today Show. So why have the exit polls been so wrong in the last two elections? It is clear that there must have been manipulation in the voting machines. While there's been a lot of talk of problems with not having paper trails, computer fraud is uncovered most of the time without paper trails.

--snip--

http://www.zogby.com/soundbites/ReadClips.dbm?ID=10385

I guess at the very least he believes there is evidence to suggest it and a serious inquiry should be undertaken (or at least the author of this article believes that). :shrug:
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noel711 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 08:50 PM
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1. I was a member of Zogby's...
polling list; every so often I'd get an email inviting me to
participate in a poll. Sure thing!

So today I got an email from Zogby, a very long survey to fill out.
It took a few pages, but, yes, there were questions to me asking if I had issues with the way the elections was administered,
and did I have any trouble voting? And did I think Bush was a legitimately elected president (!). Of course I answered honestly.
Now.,... why on god's green earth would Zogby be asking those questions if he felt the election was up to HOyle!
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 08:53 PM
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2. He can only hope so
His polls this year were embarrassing.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 08:54 PM
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3. Uh Huh
:eyes:
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 08:55 PM
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4. That's my take.
Edited on Tue Nov-09-04 09:36 PM by No Surrender
It doesn't sound like he's going to do anything about it though, other than offer suggestions others may take. :shrug:

fixed typo on edit
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 09:06 PM
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5. SEND THIS TO KERRY/EDWARDS...
..John Edwards, and George Soros! AND all the media!

The Kerry/Edwards campaign has $43 million or some such left over - this would be a VERY good use of those funds!

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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 10:08 AM
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6. Kick
n/t
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GOPBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 11:11 AM
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7. He does think it happened.
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Nederland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 11:24 AM
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8. This was NOT written by Zogby
It was written by Sheldon Drobny of Op-Ed News.

Your title is very deceptive and I suggest you correct it.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 11:25 AM
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9. I Suggest You Read What I Wrote
Why the fuck should I care what you suggest. Read the first sentence of the post or are you too lazy?
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Nederland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 11:27 AM
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10. Response
I don't care if you editted the post to point out that the article was written by someone else, the title is still misleading.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 11:32 AM
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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 01:12 PM
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12. This article made it to Zogby's site because it mentions Zogby's polls
It is located under the "Zogby In The News" section of his website.

Let's be careful what we read into what others publish. Zogby may, or may not agree with the content of that editorial, or he may just be stroking the old ego a bit by publishing a reference to his name.

Hard to say, easy to clear up. If anyone knows how to contact him, we could just ask him and settle it.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 02:20 PM
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13. Which Is Why I Phrased It As A Question
and said "You decide" and clearly wrote in my first sentence of the post that Zogby didn't write the article.

It's called being provocative. Gee, someone putting a provocative title on a post. That NEVER happens, nor should it...:eyes:
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 03:55 PM
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14. Based on this...
Edited on Wed Nov-10-04 03:56 PM by yibbehobba
one can make no conclusions as to what Zogby thinks. To do so would be irresponsible.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 04:21 PM
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16. Ok
That's what you think...:shrug:

I think he's posting this on his site for a reason. Personally, I draw no conclusions, I just think it's interesting that he's putting it there.
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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 04:55 PM
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18. I think hes doing it for a reason as well
The reason being that the article mentions his name.

That's why its listed under the category "Zogby In The News"
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mccormack98 Donating Member (209 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 04:18 PM
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15. Means nothing ...
Zogby automatically links to anyone referring to him in their articles. If you wrote an article about upholstery and discussed a recent Zogby poll, he'd link to you.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 04:23 PM
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17. I'm Sure You Can Back that Assertion Up Then
Since you state it so matter of factly.
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