Let's not forget abandoning the "Poor" issue and the "Health Care " issue

[Capn Sunshine]

hey, if we threw THOSE over, we'd really be somewhere.

Downtown hell, next to the * wing.

[AP]

1. Jobs, Education, Health Care. Let's work those themes into a clearer

narrative about what Democrats believe in.

[WI_DEM]

2. It always interested me how during the campaign Kerry always

mentioned the "middle class" but rarely spoke of the poor and working poor.

[robbedvoter]

3. Absolutely. When Clark wanted to have families up to 50,000 not pay

taxes at all, Kerry took the same position as Faux: "but thy need to contribute too"
"they did - sending their kids to war - Clark answered the Faux bimbette.

[TeacherCreature]

4. I disliked that rhetoric, and it may have hurt him with minorities

Who almost certainly understood the code.

As I heard it, "Middle Class" meant "white people in swing states."

[obnoxiousdrunk]

5. The middle class

is the biggest voting block. We haven't done a good job in getting the poor to vote.

[sonicx]

7. if we did (get more poor people to vote)...

we'd never lose.

[unfrigginreal]

6. Christ Capn, you're pushing the same strawman argument?

Who, other than Zell Miller, is proposing abandoning ANY faction of the Democratic Party? Is there any room for reflection after another loss by this party? You're a big Dean supporter and he tried to make the case time and again that we have to find a way to communicate with the people that are voting against their own interests by voting puke. You didn't hear him pushing for gay-marriage, you heard him pushing for civil rights.