NYPost: Soured on Howard For Being 'Like Bush'

[Raya]

http://www.nypost.com/news/nationalnews/16034.htm

This article mirrors some of my journey of disaffection over the last 8 months. Governor Dean was given all the advantages. From a cyber activist movement which took years to develop to the anti-war passion of many of us who writhe in pain over the monstrous injustice of American foreign policy.

Yet the governor has failed us. Not for lack of trying, because I feel he put in much effort with great determination. Not for anything he said, because all of the supposed verbal gaffes are somewhat understandable. But because of who he is.

Dr. Dean is a good man, but he is not the leader that his campaign positions and rhetoric suggests. His past record often stands in contrast to his current posture. You really want to find that he is a truly substantial leader, but you don’t. He just has not done the things and fought for principles enough in his life, for you not to feel that he is wobbly.

I think we need a meet-up forum for people like me and those described in this New York Post article.

Excerpts:



SOURED ON HOWARD FOR BEING 'LIKE BUSH'

By DEBORAH ORIN
January 18, 2004 -- DES MOINES, Iowa - Call them the Dean Defectors - they used to like Howard Dean, but now are so turned off that some offer the ultimate insult for a Democrat: He reminds them of President Bush.
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"In the way he comes off, he just reminds me of Bush. He just doesn't sound as intelligent as the other candidates. I don't want another president who will embarrass us," added Cunconan, who now backs John Kerry.
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Tim Grover, 46, who runs a Des Moines-based mobile disk-jockey service, said: "I liked the energy Dean has brought to the Democratic Party, but he seems kind of combative, and he's got Bush's smirk. It just doesn't appeal."
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Brenda Peshel, 32, who lives near Perry, said: "Dean, I like because he's against the war, but Edwards is more down-to-earth, and he's not politically driven or high and mighty like Dean seems to be. "With Dean, it just seems like he's up to something. He says things people want to hear, not exactly what he thinks."

[Frangible]

1. woah woah waoh

"as intelligent"? The man is a medical doctor ffs. And he smirks? Smirks? How superficial can you be? What do you want, a genetically engineered 25 year old supermodel with a perfect body and smile?

[incapsulated]

3. Your banner is cool! n/t

[aquart]

2. You have to appreciate the subtlety.

What's the worst insult one Democrat can say to another: "You're like Bush."

And I LOVE the accusations: Dean is dumb. Dean is political. Oh, it's just soooooo sleazy.

But I pity anyone who believes Edwards is in politics because he's NOT political.

Or who thinks it was intelligent of Kerry to believe Bush without question and support the war.

The New York Post is a Murdoch rag. For shame, Raya.

[dsc]

4. But it is critical of Dean

Its author could be Satan and people would still think it was acceptable to post it.

[Hawkeye-X]

6. You echoed my thoughts

About this tabloid article whixh absolutely has no meaning and written by trash journalist who has no business in dabbling with politics.

[jpgray]

5. Well, I find Dean to be much superior to Bush. (nt)

[Hoppin_Mad]

7. This thread is a dupe

Same article here.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=133929

[shance]

8. LOL!!*** Now hes TOO much like Bush!!!

This is getting to be so utterly ridiculous that its actually becoming pretty funny.

So.....COMING attractions on The Howard Dean Variety Show!!


They were "Soured on Howard for being too liberal....no maybe it was Soured on Howard for being too much LIKE Bush....nah thats not right....mmm....maybe it was more like...

SOURED ON HOWARD FOR BEING TOO LIBERAL AND TOO MUCH LIKE BUSH!!!



There we go!!...much better...whew! im so glad we got that one straightened out......

[Raya]

9. Wish Howard was liberal. So far to right of me and mine it not funny.

[dsc]

10. Then why are you quoting a right wing hack like Olin

writing for a Murdock owned paper?

[Lexingtonian]

11. I can agree with much of the opinions expressed

Suffering under the ad bombardment from the Boston TV stations that broadcast into New Hampshire, I have to say over time I find the Dean ones the most difficult to bear for some of the reasons cited by this article. Whether or not D. Orin has substantial bias.

It took me a while to figure out what it was about the attitude and message/style choices in these ads that annoyed me. It turns out to be: the clunky, bumbling, one-eyed armored Daleks of the show Dr. Who who chase after their prey while screaming "Exterminate! Exterminate!" as a cohort. (The Tom Baker edition of DW, btw.)

I think the problem is that the campaign intended to convey determination and a certain level of contempt for Bush, who is supposedly 'running the government like Enron' and such, but after the fifth or sixth viewing the contempt part leaves much more of an impression than the power-of-the-will part.