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Dob Bole (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 01:12 PM Original message |
DU is ALREADY losing Election 2008.... |
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Dob Bole (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 01:17 PM Response to Original message |
1. kick |
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Dems Will Win (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 04:49 PM Response to Reply #1 |
152. THE ULTIMATE SOLUTION is in this thread: |
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Fla Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-04 01:48 PM Response to Reply #152 |
191. I just posted something similar |
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Dob Bole (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
2. kick, since I just read another thread about "racist, bigoted dumbasses" |
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drdigi420 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 01:58 PM Response to Reply #2 |
74. lots of threads because there are lots of racist, bigoted dumbasses |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 03:30 PM Response to Reply #74 |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
3. Yep |
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RogueTrooper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
4. Good Post |
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Stuckinthebush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 02:12 PM Response to Reply #4 |
93. How do we reach out to these Americans? |
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RogueTrooper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 03:38 PM Response to Reply #93 |
139. For somebody with such contempt |
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Richardson08 (472 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-04 02:33 PM Response to Reply #139 |
203. everyone in the Northeast and on the west coast is not rich |
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Bill McBlueState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-04 10:40 AM Response to Reply #93 |
186. exactly |
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ElectroPrincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 09:51 PM Response to Reply #4 |
166. Yes, but those of us on the religious left try not to posture |
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GiovanniC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
5. I'd Have No Problem Being Tolerant |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 01:24 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. You have a major problem with tolerance |
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GiovanniC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 01:28 PM Response to Reply #7 |
21. My Tolerance Ends |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 01:30 PM Response to Reply #21 |
26. Nice try |
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GiovanniC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 01:31 PM Response to Reply #26 |
32. No, I'm Talking About the Fucking Ballot Proposals in My State and Others |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 01:51 PM Response to Reply #32 |
62. I don't remember voting for those either |
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GiovanniC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 02:07 PM Response to Reply #62 |
86. I Did Not Say YOU In Particular |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 02:08 PM Response to Reply #86 |
89. Yes, it's hard work. |
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GiovanniC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 02:17 PM Response to Reply #89 |
100. So I Guess |
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chimp chump (132 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 08:37 PM Response to Reply #100 |
159. There's the problem... |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-04 09:32 AM Response to Reply #100 |
175. Yes, you guessed right |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 02:37 PM Response to Reply #89 |
110. Patience and empathy begin when you're a kid |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-04 09:34 AM Response to Reply #110 |
176. Tolerating something doesn't mean smiling at it |
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regnaD kciN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 01:30 PM Response to Reply #7 |
27. I think the point is more like: |
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GiovanniC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 01:33 PM Response to Reply #27 |
40. Well, The Thing Is They ARE Tolerant To Me |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 01:52 PM Response to Reply #27 |
64. That has the same problem |
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GiovanniC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 02:12 PM Response to Reply #64 |
94. Okay, You're Either Thick or You're Doing This on Purpose |
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Rockholm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 02:27 PM Response to Reply #94 |
106. My guess is on purpose. |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-04 09:36 AM Response to Reply #94 |
177. Now you just switched from tolerating bigots to tolerating bigotry |
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PhuLoi (748 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-04 01:58 PM Response to Reply #64 |
194. Bugger tolerance. |
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Roland99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 01:31 PM Response to Reply #7 |
33. We're not talking freedom of speech here, though!!! Damnit!!! |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 01:54 PM Response to Reply #33 |
68. No, we're not |
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GiovanniC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 02:05 PM Response to Reply #68 |
82. Help Me Out Here |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 02:09 PM Response to Reply #82 |
90. "I don't remember Jesus ever saying ANYTHING like that" |
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Roland99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 02:24 PM Response to Reply #90 |
104. EXACTLY THE POINT!! Jesus NEVER said anything like that! |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 03:01 PM Response to Reply #90 |
125. they don't CARE about that because it says so in Leviticus. |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-04 09:40 AM Response to Reply #125 |
178. So ask them about Leviticus |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 03:00 PM Response to Reply #68 |
124. Suppose their religion calls on them to |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-04 09:42 AM Response to Reply #124 |
179. No, toleration of people does not mean you must tolerate their bad acts |
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Dob Bole (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 01:25 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. Understandable. But... |
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RogueTrooper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 01:31 PM Response to Reply #5 |
31. We need nattatives that provide people with a path |
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GiovanniC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 01:38 PM Response to Reply #31 |
48. What New Way Do You Propose? |
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RogueTrooper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 01:55 PM Response to Reply #48 |
69. I am not sure |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 01:56 PM Response to Reply #48 |
71. I suggest reading some George Lakoff |
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SheWhoMustBeObeyed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 02:54 PM Response to Reply #71 |
119. I haven't read Lakoff yet but I've heard him on AAR and he's EXCELLENT |
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RogueTrooper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 03:40 PM Response to Reply #71 |
140. Indeed |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 01:55 PM Response to Reply #5 |
70. As another white american male, I couldn't agree more. |
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Rockholm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 02:20 PM Response to Reply #5 |
101. Giovanni, I know what you are trying to say (I Think) |
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GiovanniC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 03:23 PM Response to Reply #101 |
130. Yes, That is 100% Exactly What I'm Saying |
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Rockholm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 06:46 PM Response to Reply #130 |
154. I'm gay and that's how I feel. |
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American Tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-04 09:43 AM Response to Reply #101 |
180. Personally, I dont mind them coming to my door to tell me the end is near |
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Bunny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 01:24 PM Response to Original message |
6. So, we should acknowledge, no embrace, |
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StopTheMorans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 01:25 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Exactly, to the fundies out there, let me make it clear: VALUES ARE SHIT |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 01:27 PM Response to Reply #8 |
16. Fuck values |
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Roland99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 01:33 PM Response to Reply #8 |
41. THEIR values are FRAUDS! |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 01:25 PM Response to Reply #6 |
12. And there ya go again |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 01:29 PM Response to Reply #12 |
24. So Kerry won the south? |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 01:30 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. No, but you read the map wrong |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 01:33 PM Response to Reply #28 |
39. Not enough to win a single state. |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 01:56 PM Response to Reply #39 |
72. I am arguing |
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Rockholm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 02:23 PM Response to Reply #72 |
103. Sangh0, you argue WAY too much! |
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Ripley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 03:26 PM Response to Reply #103 |
132. It's not fighting, it's |
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sffreeways (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 09:10 PM Response to Reply #103 |
162. And the arguments |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-04 09:45 AM Response to Reply #162 |
181. One must be pretty simple minded to not understand |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 03:33 PM Response to Reply #39 |
136. So you think that alienating southern Democrats |
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MUSTANG_2004 (688 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-04 10:49 AM Response to Reply #39 |
187. Of course it is strongly Republican now |
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Bunny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 01:33 PM Response to Reply #12 |
42. Bullshit. |
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KitSileya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 01:45 PM Response to Reply #42 |
54. I have no problem embracing them....if they don't rescind my rights. |
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Bunny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 01:50 PM Response to Reply #54 |
60. Well, don't you think that's exactly what's going on? |
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KitSileya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 02:01 PM Response to Reply #60 |
78. I agree with you. |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 01:59 PM Response to Reply #42 |
75. No one said you should "embrace" them |
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Dob Bole (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 01:28 PM Response to Reply #6 |
19. Yeah, that's what I said.... *rolls eyes* |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 01:32 PM Response to Reply #19 |
34. No liberals lose because you and others believe LIES. |
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Dob Bole (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 01:34 PM Response to Reply #34 |
43. Ok. You're right. Teach me what I should believe... |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 01:37 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. Since when is being right a disadvantage? |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 02:13 PM Response to Reply #46 |
95. You are being condescending |
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Bunny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 01:37 PM Response to Reply #19 |
47. Horseshit again, Dob. |
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Dob Bole (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 01:43 PM Response to Reply #47 |
52. I didn't make my case for ANY fundamentalists... |
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Bunny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 01:53 PM Response to Reply #52 |
67. I don't think they're stupid rednecks. |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 02:02 PM Response to Reply #67 |
79. You are distorting Dob Bole's remarks |
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Bunny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-04 01:54 PM Response to Reply #79 |
193. There is little other way I can treat them,if this is what they embrace. |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-04 02:04 PM Response to Reply #193 |
197. Treat their ideas with contempt |
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Bunny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-04 02:29 PM Response to Reply #197 |
202. Okay - I can agree with that. |
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southlandshari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-04 02:02 PM Response to Reply #52 |
196. Excellent distinction. |
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southlandshari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-04 01:54 PM Response to Reply #19 |
192. Amen! n/t |
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ZR2 (345 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 01:33 PM Original message |
After living in both the north and the south |
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Tomee450 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 04:16 PM Response to Original message |
150. I strongly disagree. |
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hexola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 01:25 PM Response to Original message |
10. WIll it recover? |
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DaveofCali (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 01:25 PM Response to Original message |
11. If that was the case then the campaign ended before it even started |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 01:26 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Read the OP again |
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nyhuskyfan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 01:29 PM Response to Reply #11 |
25. If we won Ohio... |
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ArkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 01:53 PM Response to Reply #25 |
65. The dog would have caught the rabbit if it had not stopped |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
14. I am no Christian, but you make good sense here |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
15. Excellent points, Dob Bole. |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
17. You couldnt be more wrong. |
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Orlandodem (859 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
18. Good post but there are only a handful on our "bench" who |
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Blue Wally (974 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 03:46 PM Response to Reply #18 |
145. Gov Mark Warner of VA |
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HughBeaumont (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 01:28 PM Response to Original message |
20. Values like killing 100,000 Iraqis and Afghans for nothing? |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 01:32 PM Response to Reply #20 |
35. Keep arguing the facts |
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HughBeaumont (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 02:40 PM Response to Reply #35 |
113. So the message here is unite with people who AGREE with that shit? |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-04 09:47 AM Response to Reply #113 |
182. NO |
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Dob Bole (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 01:32 PM Response to Reply #20 |
36. No, values like Robert Byrd and Bob Graham opposing those actions... |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 01:28 PM Response to Original message |
22. I'm A Far Leftie Who Agrees 100% & Said Exact Same Thing |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 01:36 PM Response to Reply #22 |
44. Nobody underused any messages, Bush and the Media lied. |
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maine_raptor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 01:29 PM Response to Original message |
23. I hear what you are saying, but |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 01:33 PM Response to Reply #23 |
38. Study Christ's message |
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maine_raptor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 01:36 PM Response to Reply #38 |
45. I have, and he was/is |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 02:03 PM Response to Reply #45 |
81. Right, but it's up to us |
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realisticphish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 03:45 PM Response to Reply #81 |
144. exactly |
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RafterMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 01:30 PM Response to Original message |
29. Well put. |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 01:31 PM Response to Original message |
30. Yep.... |
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atreides1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 01:33 PM Response to Original message |
37. Having Values Isn't Stupid, It's The Values That Are |
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msgeri55 (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 01:40 PM Response to Original message |
49. past due time |
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Chili (832 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 01:41 PM Response to Original message |
50. I agree with a lot of what you say... |
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peacetalksforall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 01:42 PM Response to Original message |
51. Why is it moral to kill our kids for corporations? |
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realcountrymusic (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 01:43 PM Response to Original message |
53. Bull |
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Dob Bole (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 01:49 PM Response to Reply #53 |
59. Then you'll have to leave the Democratic Party... |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 01:59 PM Response to Reply #59 |
77. i don`t think the sojo`s are who people are talking about |
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sangh0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 02:07 PM Response to Reply #77 |
87. sojo's are Evangelicals, Baptists, etc |
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Dob Bole (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 02:07 PM Response to Reply #77 |
88. I know...my point is about broad-brushing... |
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southlandshari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-04 02:12 PM Response to Reply #59 |
199. And don't forget |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 01:50 PM Response to Reply #53 |
61. you are right about the Latino votes |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 01:45 PM Response to Original message |
55. fuck cracker nation |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 01:48 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. LOL !!! - Agreed !!! |
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meow mix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 08:44 PM Response to Reply #55 |
160. lol cracker nation works for me |
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JLaw82 (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 01:48 PM Response to Original message |
56. Let's be honest |
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demokatgurrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 01:49 PM Response to Original message |
58. What really pisses me off is that such amoral |
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KitSileya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 02:11 PM Response to Reply #58 |
92. Actually, France is a secular state. |
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Blue Wally (974 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 03:56 PM Response to Reply #92 |
147. WTF are you talking about?? |
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MrTriumph (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 01:52 PM Response to Original message |
63. Will problem will take care of itself? |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 01:53 PM Response to Original message |
66. Nonsense |
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Dob Bole (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 01:57 PM Response to Reply #66 |
73. You again highlight the problem... |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 02:06 PM Response to Reply #73 |
85. You Make Some Interesting Points, Mr. Bole |
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Dob Bole (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 02:41 PM Response to Reply #85 |
114. Implementing them isn't hard at all....it's like Howard Dean said.... |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 03:37 PM Response to Reply #114 |
138. That Is A Real Problem, Sir |
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greyfox (692 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 01:59 PM Response to Original message |
76. You are correct... |
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quaoar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 02:02 PM Response to Original message |
80. Dob Bole: |
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Dob Bole (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 02:06 PM Response to Reply #80 |
83. This is true, but there are tons of rural areas within our reach... |
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Dulcinea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 02:17 PM Response to Reply #80 |
98. You nailed it. |
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lawladyprof (628 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 02:06 PM Response to Original message |
84. Maybe we should have backed away from gay marriage |
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chimp chump (132 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 09:34 PM Response to Reply #84 |
164. Re: Maybe we should have backed away from gay marriage |
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Stuckinthebush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 02:10 PM Response to Original message |
91. "Values"??? |
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Dob Bole (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 02:13 PM Response to Reply #91 |
96. Once Again: I DID NOT suggest that we become the DLC.... |
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Stuckinthebush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 02:58 PM Response to Reply #96 |
122. Yes |
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Dob Bole (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 03:25 PM Response to Reply #122 |
131. Once Again: I did not suggest that we become the culture of the South... |
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Catt03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 09:29 PM Response to Reply #96 |
163. Question: Who stated they hated the evangelicals? |
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noonwitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 02:16 PM Response to Original message |
97. You make some good points, and it's not just about the south |
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southlandshari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-04 02:25 PM Response to Reply #97 |
200. OMG, you ROCK! |
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histohoney (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-04 03:09 PM Response to Reply #97 |
205. BRAVO |
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Township75 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 02:17 PM Response to Original message |
99. That may not give us the south, but it could give us a lot... |
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Robbie67 (687 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 02:21 PM Response to Original message |
102. So no intolerance and bigotry toward the intolerant and bigoted? |
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Dob Bole (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 02:28 PM Response to Reply #102 |
107. Once Again: I DID NOT suggest that we become the DLC.... |
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Moonbeam_Starlight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 02:24 PM Response to Original message |
105. I will not embrace |
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telamachus (279 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 02:36 PM Response to Original message |
108. Excellent post |
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riverwalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 02:36 PM Response to Original message |
109. was the nazi ideology a "value"? |
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Dob Bole (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 02:37 PM Response to Reply #109 |
111. Once Again: I DID NOT suggest that we become the DLC.... |
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montana500 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 02:39 PM Response to Original message |
112. why not? Bigotry won the election for Bush |
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Dob Bole (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 02:42 PM Response to Reply #112 |
115. Once Again: I DID NOT suggest that we become the DLC.... |
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southlandshari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-04 02:29 PM Response to Reply #112 |
201. Don't forget |
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Redleg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 02:43 PM Response to Original message |
116. I think both left and right have been intolerant of values. |
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Dob Bole (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 02:46 PM Response to Reply #116 |
117. No, I don't think they've changed at all... |
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chimp chump (132 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 10:20 PM Response to Reply #116 |
170. an unrealistic argument |
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Redleg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-04 08:56 AM Response to Reply #170 |
171. I'm not arguing that gay marriage has a long tradition in our society. |
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chimp chump (132 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-04 10:36 AM Response to Reply #171 |
185. I agree except.... |
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Redleg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-04 12:36 PM Response to Reply #185 |
188. I agree that not just Repubs have had those same beliefs. |
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chimp chump (132 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-04 01:06 PM Response to Reply #188 |
189. Insightful |
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Redleg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-04 01:24 PM Response to Reply #189 |
190. I agree with your last post- very well stated. |
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IrateCitizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 02:51 PM Response to Original message |
118. "We need the tree-huggers and the snuff-dippers too!" |
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TexasThoughtCriminal (890 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 02:56 PM Response to Original message |
120. What's the difference between evangelicals & fundamentalists? |
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Dob Bole (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 03:00 PM Response to Reply #120 |
123. Fundamentalists are a small group of evangelicals... |
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m berst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 04:13 PM Response to Reply #123 |
149. great work |
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RememberTheCoup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 02:56 PM Response to Original message |
121. There are a few religion-bashers on this board, BUT... |
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HootieMcBoob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 03:01 PM Response to Original message |
126. What it boils down to |
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chimp chump (132 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 09:45 PM Response to Reply #126 |
165. succinct summary |
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DS1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 03:04 PM Response to Original message |
127. As long as a state remains red, I'll be happy to piss all over it |
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They_LIHOP (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 03:04 PM Response to Original message |
128. These are the SAME PEOPLE you're talking about who ... |
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Dob Bole (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 03:11 PM Response to Reply #128 |
129. You are mistaken. |
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chimp chump (132 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 10:02 PM Response to Reply #128 |
168. Well, ... |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 03:31 PM Response to Original message |
134. An election? Votes counted and all that? Wow! |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 03:32 PM Response to Original message |
135. * has no values, the republican party has no values |
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Princess Turandot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 03:34 PM Response to Original message |
137. Did you read the Nicholas Kristof column in todays NYT "Living Poor.. |
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arwalden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 03:40 PM Response to Original message |
141. Oh I See... We Should Be Tolerant Of The Bigots? |
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Neshanic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 03:41 PM Response to Original message |
142. "Values DO matter to most Americans"...as long as they are yours. |
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Dob Bole (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-04 09:03 AM Response to Reply #142 |
172. I don't, but thanks anyway... |
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TeacherCreature (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 03:42 PM Response to Original message |
143. Sorry, IMO Red America has no "moral" values |
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Tafiti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 03:49 PM Response to Original message |
146. Here's my 2 cents... |
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SleepingDragon (80 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 04:10 PM Response to Original message |
148. The real divide... |
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Kahuna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 04:47 PM Response to Original message |
151. Agreed. And I posted it first about "values" when it was derided.. |
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RedEarth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 06:33 PM Response to Original message |
153. Yep |
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Walt Starr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 06:48 PM Response to Original message |
155. How would Mike Easley of North Carolina do in the South? |
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dogman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 06:56 PM Response to Original message |
156. I think it's up to the Christian-left to stand up. |
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Doomsayer13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 07:02 PM Response to Original message |
157. you are right |
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chimp chump (132 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 08:24 PM Response to Original message |
158. excellent observations. |
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bacchant (747 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 09:04 PM Response to Original message |
161. I don't really buy this |
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atre (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 09:54 PM Response to Original message |
167. Thank you for saying what needed to be said |
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DuaneBidoux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-03-04 10:05 PM Response to Original message |
169. Sorry, I just have a problem with: |
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southlandshari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-04 09:17 AM Response to Original message |
173. Excellent post! |
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WilmywoodNCparalegal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-04 09:28 AM Response to Original message |
174. Couldn't disagree more... |
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GOPFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-04 09:57 AM Response to Original message |
183. Sorry, the Bush/GOP values are not my values... |
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leesa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-04 10:20 AM Response to Original message |
184. Sorry. But christian fundamentalists are the epitome of intolerance |
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Fla Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-04 02:01 PM Response to Original message |
195. I don't care if someone is Evangelical, and I have my moral standards too. |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-04 02:09 PM Response to Original message |
198. Bigotry is the refuge of the miserable, angry, and frustrated |
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CWebster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-04-04 02:46 PM Response to Original message |
204. Values schmalues |
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