So a guy puts his life on the line for his country, comes back to protest

[mzmolly]

a war he fought in, fights for the people for 35 years in the Senate, gives up his life for several months to fight his ass off for the Presidency and now some of us are saying "FUCK YOU JOHN KERRY"?!

I'm ready to join the fucking Republican party after some of the shit I've seen here today. I'm totally disgusted.

Bush won BY 3.5 MILLION VOTES! This is not the 500 votes of 2000 in Florida people! * WON BY MORE VOTES THAN ANY PRESIDENT IN US HISTORY.

You can't possibly chalk that all up to "fraud" ...

If wanted to read this shit, I'd log on to Free Republic.

Flame away!

[Drifter]

Here Here ...

This ain't Florida. Once again we beat ourselves.

Cheers
Drifter

[IdaBriggs]

1. We're missing 7 Million Votes, 2 States look like Fraud and

JFK gives up. Fuck John Kerry. Fuck the Democrats. Fuck America.

[mzmolly]

3. I have seen no evidence of 7 million missing votes.

The polls showed 7 million MORE voters in 2004 than in 2000. Trouble is we didn't get the majority.

[aldian159]

2. I agree, sad to say.

We had our chance, worked our asses off, and lost. Am I upset? Sure? Mad? You bet? But we had our chance and lost. Last night was a bad night, to be sure.

[Old and In the Way]

4. Thank you Mz. Molly!

The upside is Bush owns it all. I'll sit back and relax now with a certain amount of amusement that those who voted for the "winner" will get to enjoy the fruits of what they have sowed.

Welcome to the Pottery Barn Republic. For those that voted for Bush "moral values" over Kerry competence....you own it! Enjoy it.

[LynnTheDem]

5. They'll just LOVE the extreme SUN & SAND coming their way soon.

Or the way of their kids. Whatever. I know *I'm* going to sit back and laugh. :)

[mzmolly]

6. " The Pottery Barn Republic "

Interesting analogy.

[lapfog_1]

7. How do you come to THAT conclusion?

"can't chalk it up to fraud"?

less than 3 percent of the PV is the difference between them.

Lets see...

1) NO dem/prog/green that I know or talked to was going to vote for *
2) MANY 2000 Nader voters that I know were voting for Kerry.
3) Polls indicated that new voters were breaking 60/40 for Kerry.
4) Many of the NON BASE rethugilcans (non Evangelicals) were not
happy with shrub, not that they were voting Kerry, but many of my
rethug friends were much more ho-hum about voting this year.
5) Both bases were extremely motivated... more so than in any
election in my memory (I helped elect Carter).

So, where did these 3.5 M new votes for Bush come from?
New voters? Or machines that can be told what to record.
It's easy to rig them all. I think they did a dry run on the
Max Cleland election, and went all out on this one.

The exit polls (Zogby, others) all had Kerry winning by a large
margin. These polls USED to be very good are predicting... you
aren't just sampling people willing to be sampled, you aren't
restricting yourself to "likely voters" or registered voters" or
"voters with wired phones and published numbers"... but you are
counting the votes of people that voted... and who have no reason
to mislead you. Do a large enough sample of those and it is
VERY HARD to get it wrong. And certainly not as wrong as this
seems to be. The only reasonable explanation is fraud. Massive
fraud. Computer fraud. It's SO DAMN EASY to do.

All * had to do was keep it close (within 5 percent) as a really
big Kerry margin WOULD be hard to conceal. But 5 percent? Easy.

[mzmolly]

8. I'd need proof that they rigged 3.5 MILLION votes.

Exit polls also showed that Bush got his base to the polls. That's how he won.

Early exit polls showed a trend for Kerry, but the fundies were out like good soldiers yesterday, defeating the "immoral" and they won.