JUST woke back up - HOW WE DOING?

[matcom]

sorry all. HAD to get a quick 3 hours!

HOW are we doing? is there HOPE?

going out to smoke. BRB

:hangover:

[Technowitch]

1. We're well and truly fucked

...and without the courtesy of a reach-around.

How's that do ya?

[SmileyBoy]

2. Shit's a-goin on.

We're prepared to contest Ohio - Kerry is not conceding a thing.

[freetobegay]

3. ...

:cry:

[DS1]

4. 'fuck you' never had such a ring to it

according to what I've been reading here

[high density]

5. Not a whole lot different than 3 hours ago

[Maddy McCall]

6. Yes, there is hope.

As it stands, we are 242 and Bush is 259. Ohio is pivotal. About 130,000 votes separate Bush and Kerry...Bush up. Bush wants to declare victory, but Kerry says that the provisional ballots, which are estimated to be 170,000 in number, must be counted first.

The ACLU has filed suit in FLA over the SOS refusing to count provisional ballots.

Wisconsin is not yet added to the electoral count.

If we win Ohio and Wisconsin, we win the election. Even if we lose Ohio, there is still the Florida question.

[AspenRose]

12. Michigan's blue now I think

[Straight Shooter]

18. Yes, Michigan now blue CSPAN shows * 254 and Kerry 242

http://network.ap.org/dynamic/files/specials/election_night_2004/us_map_govsenhouse/index.html?SITE=CSPANELN&SECTION=POLITICS

[Maddy McCall]

19. Bush just took Nevada... so Bush 254, Kery 242

Iowa, Wisconsin, New Mexico, and Ohio left.

[WI_DEM]

7. The Bush crime family is going to try to steal it again

but Kerry and Edwards are determined to fight for Ohio's Provisional votes which if counted may very well give the state to Kerry.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

8. Send lawyers guns and money (again)

but this time to Ohio AND Florida. The BBV stuff is freaking me.

[Must_B_Free]

9. Once again , I am right - NOVEMBER SURPRISE

now all cameras turn to allegations of voter fraud.

Ohio is in play due to the kerry provisional ballots that were forced by Bush challenger squads

Iowa is in perception fraud stage. the two remaining counties refuse to count the votes because their machines broke and need to be "fixed" by the manufacturer.

They are not showing that Kerry is actually ahead at this point in electoral votes, because they need to produce the perception of a BUsh lead.

[Straight Shooter]

21. Don't forget Nevada and Sproul's company that trashed Dem registrations

Lord have mercy. This country is in the vortex of one big commode.

[Susang]

10. Same old, same old

Everything old is new again. 2004 is the new 2000 apparently. :eyes:

[jus_the_facts]

11. dunno.....

....but I'm stoned and attentive! :hi: :smoke: :hi:

[strategery blunder]

13. CBS has bu$h*awolmcflightsuitchimpyfuckwad 249, Kerry 242

OH is the FL of 2004.

Refusing to call WI but likely to go Dem.

NM, NV both have more than 100% of precincts reporting and current tallies show they will go to the evil one, though Rather is refusing to call them. AP has called NV for the evil one, but no one else has.

IA...machines broke down, currently bu$h* leads by a few thousand votes with 97 percent reporting, I think. IA will not be called anytime soon.

[Tweed]

16. IA will also not matter

[Bossy Monkey]

14. Like this

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_PRES_SUM?SITE=SCCOL&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
There are AP News Alerts saying Bush won Nevada, Kerry Michigan. Not sure they're reflected in the story yet.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

15. Here

P R E S I D E N T I A L R A C E S U M M A R Y


Electoral Votes (EV) Needed to Win - 270
Party Candidate Votes EV

Democratic John KERRY 51,950,080 242

Republican George BUSH 55,719,811 249

Independent Ralph NADER 378,769 0



__________________________________________________

Not conceding Ohio..100,000 plus 175,000 provisional votes. Nev, WI, NM, IA still out there

http://election.cbsnews.com/election2004/

[dave29]

17. If we lose Ohio

we lose by less votes than in 2000. Taking Ohio would give us electoral victory.

[strategery blunder]

20. Rather just projected NV for the evil one

evil one 254
Kerry 242

[Dogmudgeon]

22. Hope you're smokin' something strong, Matcom ...

It doesn't look cheery at all.

There is a significant chance we lost fair and square.

There is a significant chance we will win the electoral vote but will lose the popular vote.

There is a significant chance we will win but Kerry will be paralyzed by Republican gains in the legislature.

There is a significant chance that massive fraud took place, since it looks like far less than 120,000,000 people voted, not the 125,000,000+ that was being reported earlier; there were also major discrepancies in exit polls and vote counts in the Diebold districts.

There is a significant chance this will not be over until the Electors meet on December 12th, with a similar result to the 2000 election.

We have our work cut out for us.

--bkl

[NewYorkerfromMass]

25. "...until the Electors meet on December 12th"

Funny. In a dark and sardonic way.

[MichaelHarris]

23. well with

103% of the precincts in New Mexico reporting I still don't know.

[DELUSIONAL]

24. whole range of emotions on DU

Yes there is hope -- Edwards came out and told us that they were going to make sure every vote was counted.

There are something like 200,000 provisional ballots -- these are the ones that the GOP challenged -- so it is likely that these votes are for Kerry.

Now I sense a willingness to dig in and fight the bush/cheney/rove gang.

There is going to be a long battle -- so go back to sleep and be prepared for the battle ahead.