Bush is secretly talking about postponing the election.

[AnIndependentTexan]

This was from a freeper message and I'm pissed if he tries this.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1169252/posts?q=1&&page=51

This is all contingency planning. Admirable except that the media and Dems are placing a whole different spin on it, i.e., GWB is going to hijack the election process and declare himself dictator. They did the same thing with the internal administration memoranda on how to treat prisoners in the WOT. I don't criticize the planning but just the public vetting of it.
I just heard Ann Compton, WH reporter, on ABC radio news just say that the Bush administration was very nervous about an AQ attack during the election process similar to what was done in Spain, which turned the election result away from the incumbent. The message is that the GOP is concerned that if an attack by AQ occurs, it will affect the election negatively hence the need to postpone the election. Unbelievable!!!


81 posted on 07/12/2004 9:48:27 AM PDT by kabar
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[bushwakker]

1. did ann compton really go an air with this?

[Nicholas_J]

11. President cant cancel the election

It takes a vote of Congress.

And the democrats could filibuster that.

[bushwakker]

41. did she go on air saying they were worried about a "spain" like attack?

if she did she's human garbage. it's is exactly wha the wh wants out there.

[Peanut Gallery]

37. I didn't hear her

but judging by her excited cheerleading for the Bush campaign on local radio, it wouldn't surprise me.

[xultar]

2. If they'd caught OBL we wouldn't be in this mess....new siggy for media

blasts

[infusionman]

15. Osama Bin Laden's Message.

B-)We should be hearing about what Osama is saying. I am concerned that he may have gotten a message out to his followers about what they are to do this weekend.

An additional thought. If the election were to be disrupted, don't you think it should be done before the election rather than the day of the election?

I am new to this. Please allow me time to get up to speed if I screw up.

[Wickster]

19. Welcome, infusionman

You are doing just fine.

I think it would take something really HUGE to cancel the elections at this point. Something I don't even want to think about because I know I can't do anything about it.

Again, welcome.

[newyawker99]

23. Hi infusionman!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[aquart]

3. Osama just told us he wasn't going to attack .

He left the choice in our hands.

Since the election is already in progress, an attempt to stop it at this point would lead to impeachment. Or dragging him out of the White House by main force which is what it might take, election or no election.

Let them talk. They do not live in the reality-based community.

[Name removed]

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[wellstone_democrat]

12. Yeah, no more "helpful" citizen for me!

I will never allow the scene that took place in the Senate to happen again. Never will they stand alone.

[Zen Democrat]

29. "Getting Bush out of the WH will be like pulling a cat from a screen door"

Got that one from my uncle, retired Air Force officer. He said if he won't go .. "I hope they call me and say John, we need you to get that bastard out of there, and I'll yank him by the short hairs and throw his ass out."

I love my uncle.

[billyoc]

30. Getting Bush out of the WH will be like pulling a cat from a screen door

LOL!

Guess what, all of your uncle's colleagues feel exactly the same way. You can bet on it.

[liberalmuse]

10. You know what's sad?

A goddamned terrorist has more credibility than our own pResident.

[IdaBriggs]

22. You are right. I'm more afraid of Bush than I am of Osama.

"A coward dies a thousand deaths, a Patriot but once."

[belle]

32. Hate to break it to you, but that's not "I won't attack," that's...

"you are making us do this," which is your classic psychopathic defense. That said, it seems likely that they don't have anything for the immediate future planned (knock wood), or they'd just go ahead and do it.

[aquart]

33. Sorry I didn't make it clear, I was referencing the election

Since the topic was postponing the election from fear of terrorist attack.

And Osama made it clear he's letting us choose our fate. That's logical. Everyone is going to wait and see what Kerry does.

[frogfromthenorth2]

4. BULLCRAP

[MnFats]

5. moronic freepers still insisting on links between Iraq & Al Queda!

Jesus! Even Bush has told them there is none!

[endnote]

7. LOL, postponing election for FEAR of attack....

Talk about Chimpy's tough talk about America NOT doing what Osama says or does...

[juliagoolia]

8. i hope all the gop are so scared they stay home! eom

[wellstone_democrat]

9. They are cute but...it was several days before the election

an "attack" on election day would actually favor Bush* and he knows it---or his controllers do. The "base" of lunatics and the greedy would crawl to the polls---they also were urged to mail in ballots and vote early in many places. Postpone it just a *little* bit and you have time to ask everyone to "come together"---be fast though boys, even my brother-in-law will be suspicious if you give him enough time to really *think* about it and stop waving his tiny flag!

If they were going to have an attack that transformed things it would need to be today or tomorrow with the voting going on Tuesday with everyone all "united". For one that just disrupts everything and buys them time? ..yeah, Tuesday a.m. would do it.

To Lurking Freepers:
Yes, evil Democrats are saying bad bad things. I sit in Lubbock and say those things (being a Dem here is like "one hand clapping!"). That's right Freepers, I'm a dangerous woman with vast powers: I'm a Democratic voter!!!!!!

[kaitykaity]

13. If they did something like this at this late date,

I think there would be blood in the streets.

Besides, these guys are bullies, and in their tiny
little hearts most bullies are cowards.

They don't have the stones for something this big.

[Abelman]

14. What?

Is there even any way they can postpone elections? Is it allowed by the Constitution?

[infusionman]

17. The Resident could declare Martial Law if something occurs

That would effectively void the election, and give him more power than I would ever care to see him have.

[Nicholas_J]

43. Again. calling martial law still doesnt cancel the elections

Even under the act that allows it, congress is stil required to cancel elections.

[Nicholas_J]

44. Again. calling martial law still doesnt cancel the elections

Even under the act that allows it, congress is stil required to cancel elections.

[sam sarrha]

16. the Spain bombing DID NOT turn the election, LYING that it was Bask turned

the election... when they knew it wasnt the Bask sepretists..

But Americans cant see a lie from the president so he shouldnt worry.

[kaitykaity]

18. Basque?

But yes, it was the lying.

[K8-EEE]

20. Spain Is What We Should Aspire To....

They united against the terrorists AND the lying liars in their government....they went after the people who DID it instead of trumping up a lot of b.s....

[rocktivity]

21. The Daily Howler does an excellent debunking of the Spanish election

...How did the final vote come out? You’d want to know this if you wanted to judge the role played by the bombing...according to the (New York) Times:

1. In the final poll, on March 7, the Popular Party led, 42-38.
2. On March 14, they ended up losing, 43-38.

Link

:headbang:
rocknation

[splat]

24. Provoke a constitutional crisis, like Nixon? It will backfire n/t

[Bossy Monkey]

25. Note the date on the FR post n/t

[progressivebydesign]

26. I smell rat. Do you? n/t

[AnIndependentTexan]

28. sorry just realized what you are pointing out

So how long have they been planning this?

[Trahurn]

27. Don't Think He Can Do That

I don't pretend to be a file cabinet on such things but my gut tells me that Bush does not have the authority to postpone a lawfull. pesidential election. INHO anyway.

[Stinky The Clown]

31. Close your eyes and picture a mob with ..........

torches and pitchforks.

Forget whether he can do it. He probably can find a way if there's no clear law. But to do so disrespects the people of this great land. I, for one, would vote no matter what. It is not only my right. It is my duty. And I'll bet any *real* American thinks the same.

[Zen Democrat]

34. This is so outdated. Let this thread die.

[AnIndependentTexan]

35. yes it is outdated but look at the timing of recent events. Bin Laden

Isn't it a little odd that this was talked about back then and now we are looking at a Bin Laden tape showing up right before the election? Also does anyone have a link to the post talking about the guy who predicted 9/11 being arrested?

[gjb]

38. Freepers have a habit of updating old stories as "breaking news" ....

First reported here:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A44676-2004Jul12.html

On the other hand, from the Yurica Report, (possible tinfoil?)

Infiltrating the U.S. Military
Gen. Boykin’s “Kingdom Warriors” On the Road to Abu Ghraib and Beyond
October 12, 2004

http://www.yuricareport.com/Dominionism/InfiltratingTheUSMilitaryGenBoykinsWarriors.html

Katherine Yurica: "Lastly, because I believe America stands in peril from within itself far more than from any outer enemy, I want to end this news analysis with this story: On August 19th 2004, Alex Jones, a colorful libertarian radio host, who broadcasts in nineteen states and can be heard on the web over the Genesis Communications Network, conducted an interview with an officer who was identified only as “David.” The officer also did not want his military unit identified. Though he spoke anonymously, he had a great deal of credibility. The officer’s military unit issued a training manual which he in turn gave to Jones. Although we attempted to obtain copies of pages from the manual from Jones, our request was not answered. The Yurica Report transcribed the interview and here is an excerpt of it. It appears that the governors of 30 states are preparing their militia for martial law in the event of an emergency."

Jones: “Why are you concerned about the military manual?”

David: “The fact the State Guard has traditionally never been armed. Yet there’s extensive fire arms training in that manual. And the use of force: the handcuffing and the prisoner transport--”

Jones: “In fact, right here, ‘Movement of Prisoners, How to Take Over City Hall.’”

David: “Yes. That is the required training for the proposed team members.”

Jones: “You told me this is a force multiplication training group to train the rest of the military, correct?”

David: “Eventually what we were told was the entire State Guard would receive this training. But as of right now, only select individuals are to receive it.”

Jones: “What do you think of this whole atmosphere?”

David: “It’s a very dangerous atmosphere, Alex. …The time it’s going to take for all these teams to be trained, outfitted and deployed is November 1, this year <2004>. And we’ve been told it’s not if, but when we are deployed. And we will be deployed after November first.”

Jones: “In America?”

David: “Yes. In the State of Texas.”

[Weembo]

36. Fascinating Constitutional Question

If * tries to postpone the election, he will be violating a law that has been in effect since 1845. Article II of the constitution states that Congress shall direct when the electors are chosen, and in 1845 they passed a law stating that it must be on the first Tuesday after the first Monday in November of a year whose number is wholly divisible by 4. So, the question is: No matter what happens, does the President have the ability to circumvent this law that was passed under a constitutional directive?

[Changenow]

39. Do you have a recent example?

July is a little stale, don't you think?

[AnIndependentTexan]

40. Greg Jarrett on Faux talking about postponing election.

Greg Jarrett on Faux talking about postponing election.

The guest, a Homeland Security official from Virginia, is saying no but Greg is pleading.

This happen today.

[harpo]

42. I already voted...would I get to vote again?