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AnIndependentTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 10:09 AM
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ignore this post. I made a mistake
Edited on Sat Oct-30-04 10:47 AM by AIndependentTexan
ignore this post I made a mistake and I'm sorry. I just woke up and saw something. I JUMPED to a conclusion without knowing the facts. I did the same thing Bush did with Iraq only my mistake didn't cost thousands of lives.

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/11/16/international/europe/16MEDI.html?ex=1006921732&ei=1&en=b9f38a3a78c0cab5

"According to British officials and CNN, which has a contract with Al Jazeera, the Oct. 20 videotape was not shown on Al Jazeera.The Sunday Telegraph reported its existence, noting that a correspondent had "obtained access to the videotape in the Middle East," the video has not surfaced.

The Sunday Telegraph of London was the only news organization to report that Osama bin Laden had justified the Sept. 11 attacks in a recent video circulating among his supporters. Four days later, Prime Minister Tony Blair of Britain cited that video as evidence of Mr. bin Laden's complicity.

It was Anthony Loyd, a Times of London reporter, who discovered documents in an abandoned house in Kabul said to contain instructions on how to make a nuclear device.

And when Mullah Muhammad Omar, the spiritual leader of the Taliban, wanted to express his defiance after his troops' ragged retreat on Wednesday, the British Broadcasting Corporation said that he telephoned its World Service network in London. As the BBC recorded, a Taliban aide in Kandahar held a telephone receiver up to a walkie-talkie as Mullah Omar shouted from the other end.
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Xenus Sister Donating Member (354 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 10:14 AM
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1. This post makes no sense
And you can't read the whole article because it's archived.

I wouldn't doubt for a moment that it's a fake video, just like the faked CBS documents, designed to make Kerry look bad. I wouldn't put ANYTHING past Rove and Co., but the Headline and the post and that link are non-sequiters.

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AnIndependentTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 10:17 AM
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3. can read the whole thing here
this article was posted at Kerry/Edwards forum by a member there they posted the whole thing here

http://forum.johnkerry.com/index.php?showtopic=107205&hl=
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 10:19 AM
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5. Once again, you are referencing an article that was written in 2001....
...and has NOTHING to do with the current videotape.
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AnIndependentTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 10:32 AM
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6. ok
All I did was post a article that was being talked about there. I just woke up give me a break. But no matter what here is what we need to do

Print these and hand them out everywhere. We can help Kerry on this.



Go to http://somnamblst.tripod.com to download high resolution TIF or PDF file to print.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 10:14 AM
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2. I would like to see side by side photos, one from a confirmed bin Laden
video, of the hands. In the video shown yesterday, the hands didn't look the same. Want to see some older pictures to make sure it is not some fault of my memory, but I recall his hands being longer.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 10:17 AM
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4. IMHO, your subject line is rather deceptive...
...you should let people know that the November 16, 2001, article is discussing ONLY ONE of the several Bin Laden videos, not ALL of the videos as you imply.

To date, there is only one video which is widely believed to be a fake. This is the video where "Bin Laden" purportedly admits responsibility for the 911 attacks. The individual professed to be "Bin Laden" does not look anything like photos taken of Bin Laden BEFORE and AFTER the attacks of 911. Take a look at the photoes linked to the following two posts:

<http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=943511#943823>
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mikehiggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 10:32 AM
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7. I think you are mistaken
It seems that the 2004 tape is authentic. The article cited appears to be referring to other tapes.

Why anyone would think this tape benefits Bush puzzles me. There could hardly be a starker condemnation of the War on Terror than to have "World Enemy Number One" send you a video greeting card.
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doni_georgia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 10:38 AM
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8. That article is from 2001 - Hello?? Please double check stuff B4 posting
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Snivi Yllom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 10:40 AM
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9. I think it's a fake
Faked

or

They have Osama all drugged up and almost lobotmized into saying what they want.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 10:45 AM
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10. The new tape is for real. Bin Laden appears quite alive and well. (nt)
Edited on Sat Oct-30-04 10:45 AM by w4rma
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