Bill Maher "Realtime" Thread

[sonicx]

anyone watching?

[ellie]

1. Yes,

it is pretty good. I like the general and Richard Belzer. Mr. Coulter will be on some time tonight.

[CO Liberal]

2. Yep

Everyone is on fire!!!

:kick:

[bettyellen]

3. costner is an idiot, belzer rocks, listing all our issues !! wooo hoooo!!

[billyoc]

Belzer got up to leave when Stan Coulter was announced!

"She's a fascist party doll"!!

[SammyWinstonJack]

13. Costner is an idiot!

[drdigi420]

23. costner is drunk

[Career Prole]

4. Man, y'all quit interruptin' the General!

He's rockin'! :D

[Proud2BAmurkin]

32. Clark ROCKED

.

[Cush]

5. "She's a fascist party doll"

Richard Belzer on Ann Coulter

[billyoc]

8. Well, that's brave of Maher

to come out on HBO like that. He's all over Stan like a cheap suit.

[Career Prole]

6. Coulter's up!

Maher: She's a friend of mine...
Belzer: She's a fascist party doll!

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[billyoc]

10. Stan's getting laughed off the show!

by the panel *and* the audience!

bwahahahaha!

[Cush]

9. "Kerry's family connections helped him more than Bush"

everyone laughed at that

[steve2470]

11. when does he talk to coulter ? he is on the comedy channel ?nt

[Cush]

14. HBO

[ellie]

You know,

I have never heard Mr. Coulter speak. She has a gravelly voice and reminds me of a friend's girlfriend, who I hated, by the way.

[billyoc]

15. Or my dad

if he was really hung over.

[Career Prole]

12. Bullshit! He did not fund his campaign with Teresa's money!

Christ! Challenge your girlfriend, Maher!

[billyoc]

16. Maher's shouting down his own audience

just so Stan can talk.
hehe

[SammyWinstonJack]

17. LOL

This is disgusting!

[tomfodw]

30. Actually, to be perfectly honest, he did

Last year he loaned his campaign something like $6 million to keep it going until he could do well in the primaries and start collecting serious donations. They mortgaged one of their houses, I think.

Not a criticism. Just trying to tell the truth.

[missouri dem]

37. He morgaged his house. Not one of his wife's.

[seabeyond]

38. the loan was off hte home he solely owns

teresa owns the other houses. he did not use any of teresa's houses to get this loan.

[LTR]

47. I think legal issues forbade him from using his wife's money

Though she did threaten to open up the warchest during the Swift Vets Who Didn't Serve With Kerry fiasco.

[Career Prole]

48. Snopes...

The aggregate value of these five homes is roughly $29 million, but the claim that John Kerry "owns" all of these properties is problematic. John and Teresa Kerry signed a prenuptial agreement and have kept their premarital assets separate. The Boston townhouse (which John Kerry mortgaged in 2003 to finance his presidential bid) is the only one of these homes that they own as a couple; the other four belonged to Teresa before her 1995 marriage to John Kerry, and some of them are even still listed under the name of her late husband.
It's at www.snopes.com

[FrenchieCat]

18. read this on the Clark blog....

Clark blogger quoted here-

The set up on Maher is simple...

Belzer represents our anger; Clark represents our reason; Costner represents the idiots who just know any better; and Coulter represents all the fascists pigs that have infected this earth with their filth, shit, bigotry, hatred and evilness.

[Wind Dancer]

44. That about sums it up.

[zuzu98]

19. Man: "I'm not the one who thought women should have the vote."

'Cause that wouldn't stop you from voting, would it?

[robbedvoter]

36. Translation: sufragettes guilty for W reading the Pet Goat (catering

to them silly women)

[Career Prole]

20. Hit him, Belzer!!

Damn! You go, man!
And shut up, Costner...you puss.

[melody]

40. Belzer is the best

Thank heavens for him. Now you know why he's been invisible on his (GE owned and operated) NBC show. He tells the truth.

[Career Prole]

21. This Mahe/Coulter flirtation thing bugs the hell out of me.

Why do we hate her, Bill? Because she hated us first, dude! Where you been, my man? Have you ever listened to her outside a motel room?

[warpigs]

22. If Iraq would have been a success we wouldn't be there anymore

[Bluebear]

24. Is Costner a little tipsy?

Is he usually so sullen and mouthy?

[billyoc]

27. He's totally out of it.

"I'm not computer literate."

[Career Prole]

25. Jeez...Costner is really dumb.

I'm agog! He's really stupid...literally stupid.
I thought you had to have something on the ball to win a director's Oscar. He's an idiot!
:wtf:

[iwantmycountryback]

26. Is Anntrax trying to call Wes a traitor or something?

That would be classic. I don't have HBO so I can't watch.

[burythehatchet]

29. Ann was literally laughed AT by the audience

she was completely exposed to be a stupid POS

[bettyellen]

43. i loved that!! she was really pathetic, she hasn't a shred of hope left !

[Career Prole]

28. The woof head! ROTFLMFAO!

I gotta have the transcript...what great friggin' lines in this bit!

[Bluebear]

31. Great schtick!

http://www.safesearching.com/billmaher/print/transcripts.shtml

should have it soon.

[Guava Jelly]

33. God I just Love Wes Clark

He kicked a good amount of ass i thought.

[Carolab]

34. WTF was Costner doing with the NADER tip?

Was he shillin' or what? It was like he was gunnin' for Kerry or something?

[LTR]

35. Not a bad show

Belzer freakin' rocked, and is one of the funniest human beings on the planet.

Wes made some great points, especially about the media, but he was a bit stiffer than usual.

And yes, Costner made some sense on a few things, but became incoherent. And how does a self-described 'conservative' who isn't voting donate so much money to Dems, including maxing out for Kerry?

http://www.newsmeat.com/fec/bystate_detail.php?st=CA&last=Costner&first=Kevin

Stan C. is a facist party doll, and a stupid one at that. And he looks like a horse and talks like a drag queen.

Bill's 'wolf' speech was hilarious! Loved the dig at Gale Norton.

So, my take? Wes needs to loosen up and be his witty self. Costner needs to quit drinking, and Belzer should be on more often. And Stan needs to just shut the fuck up and go away.

[juslikagrzly]

39. Costner really pissed me off

What a tool!

[DrRock]

46. ^

Costner made some good points. I think he basically encapsulated the mentality of those who are apathetic about voting, and with good reason. It's realistic to say that the Democrats have strayed from their core values to pursue the votes of the middle, and I can understand why people might not be interested in supporting either candidate. I think that John Kerry made a mistake by voting for the Iraq war, when I'm fairly certain that in his heart he knew it was the wrong thing to do. It's obvious that he supported it knowing that he'd be running for president, and he thought that voting against it would look bad. As it turns out of course, voting against it could have been the best thing he'd ever done.

This is the kind of thing that turns people off about the Democrats, because they stray from principle in an attempt to be more electable. I don't blame them, because that's how they can compete with the Republicans, who ALWAYS stick to their priciples, even when they're wrong. They're not afraid of losing their base, because they know that their base consists of people who just don't care about anyone else. Democrats have drifted away from their core values over the years in an attempt to please everybody, and I think that was the main point Costner was trying to make.

Having said that, I think that anyone who doesn't vote this time around is foolish, because in reality, by not voting to get rid of Bush, you are in essence voting to keep him.

Nader is a person who has done a lot for this country in the way of consumer rights and safety issues, and I commend him for it. But I have to say that as someone who has never been an elected official, trying to be the President right out of the gate is a bit arrogant. If he truly wants to advance his party and make a name for himself politically, he needs to start smaller. He needs to run for a local office. He needs to run for a seat in the senate or congress.

The reality is that very little of what happens to us is directly mandated from the office of the President. If he wants to put his money where his mouth is, and change the system for the better, he needs to prove to the American people that he's willing to start at the bottom, just like anyone would have to do with any job.

Costner said that Ralph Nader was someone whose message needed to be heard, and he's right. This year, however, his message to his supporters needs to be this:

"We will help you win the election, Mr. Kerry, but be advised that we will also hold you to a higher standard than that to which George W. Bush has been held. We expect that of you, because we know that you are a better person, and infinitely more qualified to hold the office of President than your opponent. We also know that as a person of principal, you will enthusiastically welcome that higher standard, and head this country back in the right direction."

Or something like that.

My point is that this kind of effort on the part of those who feel they have become disenfranchised by the two-party system would prove once and for all that they DO hold great deal of power in deciding presidential elections, and that both parties will have to start taking them seriously.

Sorry for the novel.

[julialnyc]

41. my view

Wes had to stay "on point" to a certain extent for the purpose of supporting Kerry. But I think he made some solid points. It was uncomfortable to watch Costner try to steal the spotlight. I think he was supposed to be the "Conservative" representative on the panel but as soon as the cameras started to roll and the crowd reaction came into play, he started to work for the applause. Sure Kev doesn't understand why Iraq and "Jobs" are a central issue in the campaign -- he lives on a $20 million ranch somewhere probably far off from reality. He kind of looked at Wes like he plans to play him in a large-scale, over-budgeted Hollywood epic ala Le Postman where they erect huge statues of Costner saving the world -- he's got an uncanny feel for the pulse of the voting public! What's up with maher giving all of this air time to idiots like Coulter and Costner so close to election day!
Cheers to Belz and Wes for staying sane, smart and effective . . .

 

[LTR]

42. Hey, I actually liked 'The Postman'

Though parts of it were pretty cheesy, including the statue part.

'Waterworld', on the other hand, was a big pile of shit. I could live the rest of my life without seeing Kevin Costner drink his own piss.

Then again, maybe that's what he was drinking before coming on tonight.

[julialnyc]

45. he is the Sybil of waste

don't waste your vote on Nader