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KelleyKramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 01:09 PM
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List of Bush lies about stolen explosives (need help)

Hi folks, I've been out of the loop all day and don’t know how many new lies Bush told today about the stolen weapons.

This list is from last night, please help me out with any additions,

Best!
Kelley

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GEORGE W BUSH LIES ABOUT STOLEN WEAPONS IN IRAQ

- It’s the new Iraqi governments fault.

- We just found out 10 days ago.

- Its Saddums fault, because they were gone when we first got there on April 9, 2003.

- 'You cant expect me to do my JOB' excuse, because there are hundreds of weapons bunkers with bombs, we can't guard them all, especially not one of the biggest in the whole country.

- The 'Well, the other guy would be a bigger screw-up than I am' excuse. Paraphrasing Bush 'If John Kerry were president, Saddam would still be in power and have access to the site and be able to give them to our terrorist enemies'.

- It’s the liberal medias fault. Because the New York Times, CBS, and Dan Rather.. they are all out to get Bush.

- The 'I don’t have a clue' excuse. We don’t know what's going on and don’t have all the facts, so Stop saying that!!

- Its Russia's fault. The Russians came in and stole 500 truck-loads of weapons from Iraq right after we took over.

- It’s the troops fault. The troops should have demanded they be re-assigned to protect these sites.


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rndmprsn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 01:11 PM
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1. LA times OP/ED piece offers seven...
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KelleyKramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 01:13 PM
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3. That is Registration only, can you summarize please

If its not too much trouble... really just want to know the 7 reasons they have.

Thanks!

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rndmprsn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 01:27 PM
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4. here...
1. Look at the bright side.
Kerry, insists Vice President Dick Cheney, fails to "mention the 400,000 tons of weapons and explosives that our troops have captured and are destroying." This is sort of like arguing, "Your honor, the record should reflect the countless times I've driven to work without swerving onto the sidewalk and mowing down dozens of pedestrians."

2. Consider the source.
Why, Republicans ask, are we finding out just now about this? Well, for starters, it was less than two weeks ago that the International Atomic Energy Agency informed our government of the lost explosives. A Wall Street Journal editorial imputed dark motives to the fact that the information leaked, without explaining why the U.S. government was keeping it secret in the first place, or why the fact that it leaked detracts from the substance of the story.

3. Don't judge.
As the Journal pleaded, "Some 380 tons of frightfully powerful stuff has gone missing, and the objective before us should be to locate it, not locate blame." In other words, the military can't search for the bombs unless the voters withhold judgment about Bush.

4. Kerry reads newspapers.
"What would he do as president? Get up every morning and say, 'I'm going to govern based on what I find in the newspapers?' " sneered Karl Rove. "John Kerry will say anything he believes will help him politically," wrote Bush campaign manager Ken Mehlman, "and today he is grasping at headlines to obscure his record of weakness and indecision in the war on terror." The horror — Kerry is letting world news infect his judgment.

5. Kerry's a hypocrite.
"After repeatedly calling Iraq the wrong war and a diversion," Bush declared, "Sen. Kerry this week seemed shocked to learn that Iraq was a dangerous place full of dangerous weapons." This is a bizarre inversion of reality. Bush justified the war primarily as a way to keep weapons out of the hands of terrorists, yet his handling of it led to exactly that result.

6. Kerry hates the troops.
"The senator is denigrating the actions of our troops and commanders in the field," Bush insisted. By this logic, any criticism of Bush's military plan amounts to blaming the troops. By the same Orwellian logic, statements like the one from Bush supporter Rudy Giuliani — "The actual responsibility for it really would be for the troops that were there. Did they search carefully enough?" — do not count as blaming the troops.

7. It was like that when we got here.
Republicans seized on an NBC News report that a U.S. Army brigade had inspected the site in April 2003 and found no weapons. This claim fell apart after NBC and the brigade commander said the Americans merely stopped at the site without inspecting it. Bush and his allies have since retreated to claiming that the explosives may have been moved before the war started. This is possible, though highly unlikely. David Kay, the man Bush chose to search for WMD in Iraq, said such a transfer probably would have been detected by U.S. satellites. And KSTP, a Minneapolis TV station that had staff embedded with troops who went into the area, has footage of U.S. troops coming across what look to weapons inspectors very much like the explosives in question, cracking open locks and then departing. There have been reports of systematic looting since.
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 01:13 PM
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2. - We actually destroyed most of it.
- Kerry is jumping to conclusions without the facts.
- In the grand scheme of things, 380 tons is not that much.
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