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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 08:09 AM
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(Wi.) Father-In-Law For Kerry .. . Almost. Need help
He will probably vote for Kerry. He is a republican, but can't stand bu$h. He just came back from AZ to stay a few weeks here, and vote on Nov. 2. It seems every time he comes back from there, he is slightly more anti-Dem. Anyway, where I need the help is where Kerry stands on abortion. I know he is pro-choice, but my father-in-law heard that Kerry will make abortion available to women, and taxes will pay for it. So, I guess what I'm asking is, where does Kerry stand on government funding of abortiions?
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 08:14 AM
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1. He doesn't support governemtn funded abortions.
But I think he supports abortions in the military and funding UN programs.
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 08:16 AM
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2. does your f-i-l think
that kerry is gonna have a special program that pays only for abortions?
i do not speak for the campaign, but there is no way that kerry will undo the damage that henry hyde, et al, did to a woman's right to choose. his hands are tied. it will take a dozen years of democratic rule to undo that crap. (although i did my part, i went out to hyde's district this week to volunteer. he is gonna get his clock cleaned.)
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 11:28 AM
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8. I Think He Does
think there will be a special progran that pays for abortions. SOunds dumb, but I swear, whenever he goes to AZ, he comes back "infected."
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auburngrad82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 08:17 AM
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3. My Understanding
is that Kerry is personally opposed to abortion but feels that the decision is between a woman and her doctor, not the government. Another one of those fallacies about the republicans being for "less government". In this case repugs would love for the federal government to regulate a medical procedure. I think that the right-wing spin about the government paying for abortions under democratic presidents is just that, spin. I don't really think that the government has "payed" for abortions. They have just protected a woman's right to choose what is best for her and her family.

Another point: the number of abortions actually increased during Dubya's years as pResident. Probably related to the poor handling of the economy and the loss of jobs under this administration. If your father in law is actually concerned about abortions then maybe he should vote for a candidate that might have a shot at correcting the economic problems that Dubya has created.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 08:25 AM
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4. auburngrad82
is exactly right. use what auburngrad82 said to sway you father-in-law back from the dark side..
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 08:27 AM
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5. pro-choice = freedom to chose. Freedom to make your own religious choices
Edited on Fri Oct-29-04 08:27 AM by w4rma
It also means anti-coathanger abortions and anti-abortions for only those who can afford one on the blackmarket.

Pro-choice = Pro=freedom, not pro-abortion. You can campaign against abortions just like you can campaign for folks to stop smoking. The government should not be making life or death medical decisions for folks. The government needs to stay out of folks personal lives and get back to protecting our borders and using its resources to catch *real* criminals, not wasting time of jailing girls who got coathanger abortions and didn't die.
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clydefrand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 08:32 AM
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6. Just ask him these questions:
Edited on Fri Oct-29-04 08:32 AM by clydefrand
Suppose there's a woman in the military in Iraq who is kidnapped by a terrorist, raped and released. She is now impregnated by him. Should she be allowed an abortion with tax money or be forced to carry a terrorist's child to full term? Or maybe there's a woman in the military who is raped by a commanding officer or a fellow soldier. Should she be allowed to have an abortion at tax payers' expense?

Suppose his daughter has a tubal pregnancy. Should she be allowed to have an abortion or will it be alright to let her die because of it?

Should a poor, uninsured child who has started menstruating and is raped by a relative or other low-life be forced to carry a child within her small body and possibly die trying to give birth? Or should she be allowed to use Medicaid funds to abort this embryo?

People who are so dead set against abortion do not consider all the scenarios that are real. These things happen to real people!
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Jimmy D Donating Member (75 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 08:53 AM
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7. He actually wants to lower it useage
He is against iton faith basis but supports it because he beleies it is betgween a woman, her doctor ande God,but wants to Have sex education on how not to get prega nt,also give pregant women a choice to give child up for adoption but more important giet the ecomnoy going so abortion is not a have to dicision.

Jimmy D
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