Faux News: Pentagon has found pics that show the trucks moving explosives

[rockydem]

before war started....

I read this over on freakrepukelick.

These are satellite photos - and I find them quite suspect.

[democrat in Tallahassee]

1. so, why didn't we know about it then? what took so long?

[MidwestTransplant]

20. How about why didn't they do something about it at the time.

[Sara Beverley]

62. This is the point. It had to be within a few weeks of our invasion.

Nothing about this story is going to help Bush. And the more the Bushies try to lie about it the worse they look.

[George_S]

52. Iraq doesn't like Bush

Even the government we put in doesn't like him.

They spilled this story.

Why? If they were behind Bush they would not have. They want a change too.

No matter how you slice this story, it's terrible for Bush.

[napi21]

2. Powell showed pics to the UN of WMD's too!

Sorry if I don't buy this, but I DON'T!

[Nana]

48. That's the first thing I thought of, too! n/t

[TankLV]

57. Actually, he SAID he had pics, but couldn't show them because

they were TOP SECRET for NATIONAL SECURITY REASONS.

He showed CARTOONS and DRAWINGS of WHAT THEY MIGHT LOOK LIKE instead!

BECAUSE THEY HAD NO FUCKING PICTURES, OR PROOF - AND STILL DON'T!

[Riddler]

3. Powell had satelite photos of those mobile bio-weapons labs too!

And they never existed either!

[maddezmom]

4. WOW! that was quick, CNN Pentagon's correspondent just said

the Pentagon was looking to see if they could find any sat. images. :eyes:

Hmmm, who to believe??? I'll go with Jamie from CNN for now.

[Doosh]

5. I knew we shouldn't have moved so quickly on this

another Rove trap

[Cocoa]

9. not a trap

this story is big, serious trouble for Bush, something that HAD to be jumped on.

The original NBC report on the embedded journalist will turn out to be a scandal for NBC.

[formernaderite]

22. I agree...

...the Bushistas are much more clever than we ever give them credit for. I heard the story, jumped for joy and then hoped Kerry would sit back for a few days and let the press have at it. Instead, he's the story. I'm suffering from pre election indigestion right now....and I don't need this. This race can be won by Kerry, but regardless it will be tight...screw ups must be avoided at this point. I don't know why he feels the need to go out on a limb and risk being wrong or perceived as wrong.

[sonicx]

6. and they do nothing about it?

[girl gone mad]

7. Don't believe them..

kast I heard, the Pentagon is searching for any kind of evidence that they were moved before the war, but they haven't found it yet.

[fob]

8. They better have the after pics of the trucks blown up then or else

they're doublefucked, cause that shit is still gone and blowing up OUR guys/gals.

[Sparkly]

12. Exactly, AND the pics of them securing what was still left there

immediately after this (supposed) picture was (supposedly) taken.

And compare it with what's left there now. What did they do to secure it, and when?

[bush equals idiot]

10. Ugh.

Will they never cease to be morins.

There were 35 tons of explosives missing at the last check of the UN inspectors before Bush ejected them out of Iraq. They sealed the remaining 380 tons with the IAEA seal.

Of course Iraqis were seen removing the 35 tons. They didn't levitate out of there. Fix news would be a good place to open a news station.

[Cocoa]

11. Pentagon has no credibility

Rummy has been in hiding since Abu Ghraib, and Wolfie has been out of sight for a LONG time.

Not to mention Chalabi...

[0007]

19. ....and Richard N. Perle has been shilling in a mortuary while some

say that Richard may have had an accident during a cremation process and ....who knows? He hasn't been seen either for a while.

[Cocoa]

21. maybe Perle is in Iraq now

enjoying the wonderful new paradise he predicted.

[Mabus]

13. Pics must have been in

the same box as Bush's TANG records. Contents can only be used subjectively and when Karl thinks the timing is right.

[0007]

14. A big resounding "BULLSHIT"

[in_cog_ni_to]

15. I don't believe it. I believe NOTHING this administration says.

they are all LIARS. Plain and simple. LIARS. If they had videos of the trucks hauling the explosives off, why didn't they tell the IAEA about them? I know why. Because they're BOGUS.

[AnIndependentTexan]

16. if fox says it then it must be false

wouldn't the papers have picked up on that before they released the stories?

[debatepro]

17. A2 "The explosives were missing before the war"

I started working on answer to this argument this morning. I am at work and was busier than expected. I thought IAEA said that there were hundreds of other sites. which means even if you prove this one you still have hundreds more to answer for.

1. Iraqi head of Science ministry's site monitory department says "Impossible that they were taken before the fall of the regime.
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1514&u=/afp/iraq_us_explosives&printer=1
But as the issue of the missing explosives took centre stage in the final days of the US presidential campaign, some US officials have suggested they had gone before the US-led forces moved on Baghdad.
"It is impossible that these materials could have been taken from this site before the regime's fall," said Mohammed al-Sharaa, who heads the science ministry's site monitoring department and previously worked with UN weapons inspectors under Saddam.
"The officials that were inside this facility (Al-Qaqaa) beforehand confirm that not even a shred of paper left it before the fall and I spoke to them about it and they even issued certified statements to this effect which the US-led coalition was aware of."

2. Your playing Defense - Other sites were also not quarded.
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1514&u=/afp/iraq_us_explosives&printer=1
Sharaa also warned that other nearby sites with similar materials could have also been plundered.
"The Al-Milad Company in Iskandariyah and the Yarmouk and Hateen facilities contained explosive materials that could have also been taken out," the official told AFP in an interview.


3. Photos just sets them up for the - oh you mean like the ones that you showed the UN.

[0rganism]

31. Here's another good'un

Let's see them spin this article:

"This stuff was well-known. Everyone knew it was there, and it
should have been among the first sites to be secured," said a European
diplomat familiar with the disappearance of the explosives, which was
first reported Monday by The New York Times.

At the Pentagon, an official who monitors developments in Iraq said
US-led coalition troops had searched Al-Qaqaa in the immediate aftermath
of the March 2003 invasion and confirmed that the explosives, which had
been under IAEA seal since 1991, were intact. Thereafter the site was
not secured by U.S. forces, the official said, also speaking on
condition of anonymity.

The IAEA had periodically inspected the site between 1991 and 2003,
including numerous times between November 2002 and March 2003, the
official said. As of January 2003 the IAEA had "fully inventoried" the
site, the official said. It was not clear what additional inspections
were done between January and March.
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1098677410357

[sandnsea]

18. Why didn't they just say so then?

What's all these days and days of song and dance if they had satellite photos and knew exactly what happened to those explosives. Why didn't they know exactly what happened to 400 tons of missing explosives anyway? Bullshit. They're incompetent fucking liars and ought to be ashamed that prostitute the uniform that way.

[progressivebydesign]

23. BUSH ordered the inspectors OUT.. if they were stolen after that..

.. it's STILL Bush's FAULT! Doesn't FAUX get that?????????? They were accounted for, and we kicked them out.. end of story. God, people are stupid!

[Joanne98]

38. Bush didn't let the inspections work. It's HIS fault still.

[snippy]

24. What possible reason could Fox News have to be truthful?

It is hard work making sure that your viewers are the most misinformed group of people in the United States.

[FlashHarry]

25. So they WATCHED them move the explosives?

Gee, that doesn't sound like a very proactive approach to guarding the safety of the freedom-loving people of Iraq!

Face it--it's lose/lose for these guys. The bombs were there in March '03 and gone by April '03. That means that they were either:

1) Looted during/after the war

or

2) Moved before the war--under the nose of the intelligence community, which, at the time, was focused like a laser on Iraq, trying to find any scrap of evidence that could be construed as a casus belli.

Either way, BushCo™ fucked up.

[high density]

28. Fantastic point! (NM)

[snippy]

39. Great point. How many have been killed or maimed with these explosives?

And how many more will there be? And Bush is proud of it all.

[seraph]

26. That's great news!

I hope they DO find pictures of the weapons being moved!

It will prove the total incompetence of the bush misadministration!


Either way, this story is win-win for Kerry.

[tomfodw]

27. There are reports the place was still being looted recently

We still let the stuff get away.

[Q]

29. Isn't the issue that the ammo dumps / weapons facilities...

...were never secured? And isn't this the reason they don't know for sure when/if they were 'moved'?

- Don't let the RWingers redirect the debate. The FACT is Bush* didn't send enough troops to secure anything but the oil fields and ministry...which was why EVERYTHING ELSE WAS LOOTED.

[MADem]

33. They can spin all they want,

but the point you just made is THE POINT. And they know it!

[LynnTheDem]

30. NOPE. Col. Peabody, commander, 3rd Infantry Division, April 4, 2003

Commander of the 3rd ID; EXPLOSIVES WERE FOUND AT AL QA QAA on APRIL 4, 2003.

And that's a very well-reported FACT.

Nice try, rightwingnuts.

[Beetwasher]

32. You Read On FR That This Was Reported On Fox? Uh, Ok, Whatever

:eyes:

[txindy]

41. Just in case we missed the report by the Beacon of Truth: Freeperland

:eyes: :eyes:

[Roland99]

34. Same Satellites that showed Iraqi Troops/Tanks on the Saudi border in 1991

[The_Casual_Observer]

35. I don't want to read about what they say on rw shit sites

That is why I subscribe to DU. Please post this on some other site.

[Norbert]

36. I guess this means they are calling Alawi a lair.

And they pitched a bitch when Kerry had something to say about him.

[Skittles]

37. LOL - FOX "news"

FOX has to tell their idiot fans something.

[Bandit]

40. The main thing to focus on is they say they don't know

They say they have to do some investigating because they just don't know. Ignorance is no fucking excuse.

[lynintenn]

42. I just watched Fox

Brit Hume said nothing about it and if it were true he would be talking about it
but i bet the pentagon will come up with something

[lickybush04]

43. I dont like this story

I for one dont believe any weapons were ever there at any time. I think this story helps bush by suggesting that dangerous weapons were there in the first place.

The media is helping "prove" the rationale for this BULLSHIT WAR!!!!

[Demfromct]

44. No don't worry

Even if these phots are released, it proves nothing. Second, why has it taken 18 months to figure out these things are missing. And, where are they.

Also, on April 3, they found explosives there. Why wasn't this stuff guarded or destroyed.

I think they should focus on the conventional stuff that you could have walked in there and taken.

That is where my problem is.

Foxnews doesn't know where the explosives are, no one does. No one knows what happened to them. THAT IS THE POINT.

[TankLV]

60. Plus - THESE WERE NOT WMD!

These have NOTHING to do with bunkerboy's LIES of why he wanted to invade Iraq!

[sampsonblk]

45. You are a DEM, surely you can navigate this story better

What's missing is high grade explosives that the UN allowed Saddam to keep. They have been under UN seal for years, and everyone knew they were there. These are not weapons - unless they fall into the wrong hands - which they have now apparently done, thanks to Bush's incompetence.

These shouldn't be called weapons, and certainly are nothing like WMD. But in the wrong hands, they can kill our soldiers for sure.

[Francine Frensky]

55. they're explosives, not wmd's, and they were under lock and key

to me this story illustrates the problem between republicans have with the truth.

Fact: explosives were under lock and key of international monitoring agency 18 months ago, now they're missing.

Bush spin: we don't know where they are, but atleast they're not in Saddam's hands!!

The bush spin is ridiculous: so the weapons aren't with saddam. OK, but what if they're with Osama???? What if they're with the next "bad guy"???

Their logic here is weak.

[The_Casual_Observer]

56. What kind of a shit post is this?

This post has no merit

[novadem]

58. I agree, it's just a matter of time before we hear from * that WMDs

were moved from Iraq to Syria by Russia before the war.

[gasperc]

46. nice, so they WATCHED them AND DID NOTHING

quite nice and did they give terrorists the directions on where to hide the weapons and ideal political targets????????

[Lone_Star_Dem]

47. 100% Bunk information, I say.

Not on Fox, not on google.. It was the age old bait and set back and laugh. No biggie.

I know emotions a high now, at least mine are, but lets not get worried over false info. :)

[seabeyond]

49. going to war, watching satelites and no one remembers

these trucks loading and leaving this place that was top priority adn had been told they need to protect these explosives from getting in the wrong hands.

they just happened to run into the pictures now

then that says way back when they werent doing their job and should have known way back then

[George_S]

50. LOL, I've been watching FoxNews....

.... why believe believe something from "freakrepukelick"?

[Kimber Scott]

51. Sure they're not mobile bio-weapons labs? nt

[Sebum]

53. Can U say PHOTOSHOP?

[sundancekid]

54. must be just like the ones they gave Powell; this has the stink of BS, imo

[Say_What]

59. DOES THE BUSH RELATIVE STILL WORK FOR FUX NOOOZ??

the one from F9-11?

[shivaji]

61. Did the bastard Rove set a trap and we walked in?

[Algorem]

63. Lie R's.