Conservatives Abandoning Bush

[Geek_Girl]

Has anyone read this

American Conservative.
[br />They are abandoning Bush and they want Kerry to win so they can saddle the democrats with the responsibility of the Iraq and a crappy economy. That is their game plan now. We need to be ready for it.

[CarolynEC]

1. I don't care what their motives are, so long as they vote Kerry

As for saddling JK with the twin disastrs of Iraq and the economy -- not to worry. Those belong to Bush, and history will record it.

[napi21]

4. If that's really their plan, I'm glad they're stupid!

I'm glad they're forgetting about the Supreme Court nominations, and the insane additional tax cuts, and privatising SS, etc!!!!

[Patty Diana]

8. Bush has appointed his own radical historian to make him look good

it's somewhere on the web. historians all over the country are OUTRAGED. he who controls the past control the present

[enki23]

2. that's silly. we can credibly blame those on bush for years to come

.

[Sagan]

3. Bareback Andy Sullivan basically said the same thing..

Vote for Kerry so he can fix everything Chimpy screwed up and then we'll go for another neocon who'll loot the country again and start stupid wars.. Rinse, repeat.

[Fed Up]

5. I noted to my friend the other day that the GOP right now has

nobody to blame, the Democrats are not in power. They may want Kerry to win so they can finally get a target. somebody, anybody. And if Bush wins again the GOP will be sent into the pit of hell.

[pelagius]

9. It's becoming clear to most Americans...

...that the Republicans can effectively snipe at whomever is holding power, but can't govern for shit when they actually hold office. The "obstructionist Democrat" line doesn't work well when you are in control of all three branches of the federal government.

[Mizmoon]

12. I think Clinton once said something a lot like that

something like the repubs are "great at getting power" but "terrible at wielding power".

[mac56]

18. As LBJ once said:

Any jackass can kick down a barn, but it takes a good carpenter to build one.

[quaoar]

6. A telling passage from the link

Bush has behaved like a caricature of what a right-wing president is supposed to be, and his continuation in office will discredit any sort of conservatism for generations. The launching of an invasion against a country that posed no threat to the U.S., the doling out of war profits and concessions to politically favored corporations, the financing of the war by ballooning the deficit to be passed on to the nation’s children, the ceaseless drive to cut taxes for those outside the middle class and working poor: it is as if Bush sought to resurrect every false 1960s-era left-wing cliché about predatory imperialism and turn it into administration policy. Add to this his nation-breaking immigration proposal—Bush has laid out a mad scheme to import immigrants to fill any job where the wage is so low that an American can’t be found to do it—and you have a presidency that combines imperialist Right and open-borders Left in a uniquely noxious cocktail.

During the campaign, few have paid attention to how much the Bush presidency has degraded the image of the United States in the world. Of course there has always been “anti-Americanism.” After the Second World War many European intellectuals argued for a “Third Way” between American-style capitalism and Soviet communism, and a generation later Europe’s radicals embraced every ragged “anti-imperialist” cause that came along. In South America, defiance of “the Yanqui” always draws a crowd. But Bush has somehow managed to take all these sentiments and turbo-charge them. In Europe and indeed all over the world, he has made the United States despised by people who used to be its friends, by businessmen and the middle classes, by moderate and sensible liberals. Never before have democratic foreign governments needed to demonstrate disdain for Washington to their own electorates in order to survive in office. The poll numbers are shocking. In countries like Norway, Germany, France, and Spain, Bush is liked by about seven percent of the populace. In Egypt, recipient of huge piles of American aid in the past two decades, some 98 percent have an unfavorable view of the United States. It’s the same throughout the Middle East.

[JuniorPlankton]

7. I read it, and I like they would vote for Kerry

However, it's one out five (or so) "endorsements" by the magazine.
All the others are ... well "not for Kerry"

[MoonRiver]

10. Must be why whores Tweet and Imus have just said Kerry will win.

Won't be long after his inauguration that the scum will start blaming him for everything that's happened over the last 4 horrible years. :mad:

Kerry must re-regulate the media so we can get our voices out loud and clear. We're just beginning to do that, but we need big time access to t.v.

[July]

11. They won't wait for the inauguration.

They started going after Clinton the second he won.

[MoonRiver]

19. You're correct. The freaks have already started.

They'll just use the election smearing on and on and on.

[depakid]

13. That would actually be a smart game plan

although it would be a stretch to think most conservatives are that smart.... most aren't what I call deep thinkers.

[Mizmoon]

14. Hey, my hubby says he doesn't understand why I want Kerry to win

He says, "Everything's a disaster. Now they're going to blame it all on Kerry. And what can he do to fix Dubya's messes? No one can fix them."

I tell him to shut up, with a gentle and loving tone of course :)

He's not a * voter, either. It will be all I can do to get him to vote at all, he's so disgusted with everything.

[Zero Gravitas]

16. Tell him

"it's the fascism, stupid". Your Hubby is right IMO, but Bush with four more years and not having to face the voters again is too frightening to think about.

[Zero Gravitas]

15. Agreed

A Bush loss will minimize damage to the GOP. A Bush win will result either in a fascist dictatorship or the destruction of the GOP as we know it.

Assuming a Bush win AND free & fair elections being held in 2008, the GOP would be locked out of power for decades.

If Kerry wins they will try and dump some of the blame on Kerry. Sure its all bush's fault and history will record that he is the biggest disaster ever to inhabit the Oval Office, but inevitable some of that failure will rub off onto Kerry in the public's mind (well aided by the GOP spin machine and their whores in the SCLM). A Kerry win means the GOP will live to fight another day.

A Bush win would likely mean a descent into darkness for the entire country and if we somehow survive the next four years with an intact Democracy oblivion for the GOP as they will have to take full blame for the economic, social and military disasters that Bush is causing.

[kori]

17. Here is a list of other Conservative Repubs jumping ship

It is very effective when talkig to moderate Republicans that are a little scared of Bush. Copy it and paste it to any local newspapers blogs. I have gotten very good responses.



John Eisenhower:

Sen. Kerry, in whom I am willing to place my trust, has demonstrated that he is courageous, sober, competent, and concerned with fighting the dangers associated with the widening socio-economic gap in this country. I will vote for him enthusiastically.

I celebrate, along with other Americans, the diversity of opinion in this country. But let it be based on careful thought. I urge everyone, Republicans and Democrats alike, to avoid voting for a ticket merely because it carries the label of the party of one’s parents or of our own ingrained habits.

John Eisenhower, son of President Dwight D. Eisenhower, served on the White House staff between October 1958 and the end of the Eisenhower administration. From 1961 to 1964 he assisted his father in writing “The White House Years,” his Presidential memoirs. He served as American ambassador to Belgium between 1969 and 1971. He is the author of nine books, largely on military subjects

http://www.theunionleader.com/articles_showa.html?article=44657

Former Republican Gov. of Michigan William Milliken:

William Milliken endorsed Democratic Sen. John Kerry for president on Monday, saying President Bush has pursued policies "pandering to the extreme right wing."

Milliken, governor from 1969-82, accused the Bush administration of rushing into the Iraq war, pushing tax cuts that benefit the rich and blocking meaningful stem-cell research.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20041018/ap_on_el_pr/kerry_gop_endorsement&cid=694&ncid=1963&sid=96378798

From California Republican Congressman Pete McCloskey

"Ending secrecy and bringing truth and honesty back to the White House are reasons enough to elect Kerry and Edwards."

http://inprogress.typepad.com/republicanswitchers/

Former Republican Senator From Kentucky Marlow W Cook

I shall cast my vote for John Kerry come Nov 2.

I have been, and will continue to be, a Republican. But when we as a party send the wrong person to the White House, then it is our responsibility to send him home if our nation suffers as a result of his actions. I fall in the category of good conservative thinkers, like George F. Will, for instance, who wrote: "This administration cannot be trusted to govern if it cannot be counted on to think and having thought, to have second thoughts."

http://www.courierjournal.com/cjextra/editorials/2004/10/20/oped-marlow1020-8060.html

Former Minnesota Governor Elmer L. Anderson

This imperialistic, stubborn adherence to wrongful policies and known untruths by the Cheney-Bush administration -- and that's the accurate order -- has simply become more than I can stand.

http://inprogress.typepad.com/republicanswitchers/

Former Republican Congressman from Georgia Bob Barr:

Throughout my own presidential voting history, the choices have rarely, if ever, been agonizing. Nixon vs. McGovern? Carter vs. Reagan? Reagan-Mondale? Dukakis, a Massachusetts liberal? Clinton? Al Gore? Ah, the good ol' days. Each of those races presented clear choices, easily resolved.

Now we have the election of 2004. For the first time in my voting life, the choice in the race for president isn't so clear And, among true conservatives, I'm not alone.

Bush's problem is that true conservatives remember their history. They recall that in recent years when the nation enjoyed the fruits of actual conservative fiscal and security policies, a Democrat occupied the White House and Congress was controlled by a Republican majority that actually fought for a substantive conservative agenda.

http://atlanta.creativeloafing.com/2004-10-07/news_flankingaction.html

Former White House Counsel John Dean

"Clearly, it is an impeachable offense," he says. "I think the case is overwhelming that these people presented false information to the Congress and to the American people."

http://writ.news.findlaw.com/dean/20030606.html

Staunch conservative Columnist Charley Reese

I will swallow a lot of petty policy differences...to get a man in the White House with brains enough not to blow up the world and us with it.

http://inprogress.typepad.com/republicanswitchers/

Andrew Sullivan conservative writer The New Republic Magazine:

Writers bear some responsibility too for making mistakes; and I take mine. But they bear a greater responsibility if they do not acknowledge them and learn. And it is simply foolish to ignore what we have found out this past year about Bush's obvious limits, his glaring failures, his fundamental weakness as a leader. I fear he is out of his depth and exhausted. I simply do not have confidence in him to navigate the waters ahead skillfully enough to avoid or survive the darkening clouds on the horizon.

http://www.tnr.com/doc.mhtml?pt=qFFINfAm4eR7PMnY1tkQ2m%3D%3D



Cousins of George W Bush:

As the election approaches, we feel it is our responsibility to speak out about why we are voting for John Kerry, and to do our small part to help America heal from the sickness it has suffered since George Bush was appointed President in 2000. We invite you to read our stories, and please, don't vote for our cousin!

http://www.bushrelativesforkerry.com/pages/1/index.htm

There are many more prominent Republicans switching. I can not remember this level of defection of known party supporters, not even with the Reagan Democrats.

For more information check out these sites:

http://inprogress.typepad.com/republicanswitchers/

http://www.errolmorris.com/html/election04/election04_main.html

http://www.republicansforkerry.org/

http://www.republicansforkerry04.org/

http://www.johnkerry.com/communities/republicans/

[fwiff]

20. They're libertarians- and splitting with the neo-con agenda

American Conser. is a Libby publication. This is the beginnings of that split we all hear about between traditional conservatives and the neo-cons.
Good! I'll sit back and watch.:-)