DU TRL Vote for "MOSH " by Eminem

[ciaobox]

Sorry for repost...it's just too damned important!

http://www.mtv.com/onair/trl/vote/
1. Scroll Down to bottom
2. Click "Other"
3. Enter "Eminem" under Artist Name
4. Enter "Mosh" Under Video Title
5. Enter name, etc (email is optional).

[LosinIt]

1. Done, but I didn't give my REAL age

they would have been suspicious I would think.

[Robbie67]

37. I became 18 again

for that brief moment

[physioex]

2. Done..Whatever it takes...EOM

[Eric J in MN]

3. Done. (nt)

nt

[NoMoreMrNiceGuy]

4. Your kidding right??? Please tell me this is a joke..

I would rather listen to Neil Diamond than that wimp and I hate Neil.

[msongs]

5. sell your soul to the devil to be elected? /n/t

[Kimber Scott]

6. This video will change your mind.

http://boss.streamos.com/real/interscope/eminem/encore/video/mosh-rev/000_mosh-rev.ram

[NoMoreMrNiceGuy]

Refuse to watch and am thinking of voting Green now

just kidding but I don't care if he slams * or whatever its about...I truly wish he was a repug.

[Guaranteed]

13. Look, the guy obviously has a lot of influence, and for

ONCE he's trying to use it for something GOOD. Why not support him in that endeavor?

Positive reinforcement.

[rockydem]

17. He's always been against *

He slammed him hard in his last album. His songs have often had a class element in them - like all rap.

He would never be a repug.

[ornotna]

31. What are you afraid of......liking it?

I'm not a big fan of his, but this video really moved me. It's a must see IMO.

[Guaranteed]

19. That was extremely impressive.

The most important work he's done in his life, for sure.

[NuttyFluffers]

7. i feel a rousing chorus of 'Sweet Caroline' coming on!

c'mon, give the video a whirl, it's a very good song and video. i watched it and was impressed.

... now only if he had Neil Diamond doing a cameo in the video...

[Guaranteed]

9. Hey, I did it.

Yeah, it was degrading, but it was for the cause.

[TheDonkey]

14. Don't like the man, but that video is incredible

It's got powerful prose, powerful imagery, and a good beat.

A real shockafter his embarassing weird al stunt before.

[IronLionZion]

8. done! all DUers should do this

[truthisfreedom]

10. lyrics (there may be small errors, from a fan site)

copyright 2004 eminem

mosh

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America
And to the Republic for which it stands
One nation under God
It feels so good to be back..]

Scrutinize every word, memorize every line
I spit it once, refuel, reenergize, and rewind
I give sight to the blind, mind sight through the mind
I ostracize my right to express when I feel it's time
It's just all in your mind, what you interpret it as
I say to fight you take it as I’m gonna whip someone's ass
If you don't understand don't even bother to ask
A father who has grown up with a fatherless past
Who has blown up now to rap phenomenon that has
Or at least shows no difficulty multi task
And juggling both, perhaps mastered his craft slash
Entrepreneur who has held long too few more rap acts
Who has had a few obstacles thrown his way through the last half
Of his career typical manure moving past that
Mister kiss his ass crack, he's a class act
Rubber band man, yea he just snaps back

Come along, follow me as I lead through the darkness
As I provide just enough spark, that we need to proceed
Carry on, give me hope, give me strength,
Come with me, and I won't stear you wrong
Put your faith and your trust as I guide us through the fog
Till the light, at the end, of the tunnel, we gonna fight,
We gonna charge, we gonna stomp, we gonna march through the swamp
We gonna mosh through the marsh, take us right through the doors

To the people up top, on the side and the middle,
Come together, let's all bomb and swamp just a little
Just let it gradually build, from the front to the back
All you can see is a sea of people, some white and some black
Don't matter what color, all that matters is we gathered together
To celebrate for the same cause, no matter the weather
If it rains let it rain, yea the wetter the better
They ain't gonna stop us, they can't, we're stronger now more then ever,
They tell us no we say yea, they tell us stop we say go,
Rebel with a rebel yell, raise hell we gonna let em know
Stomp, push up, mush, fuck Bush, until they bring our troops home come on just . . .

Come along, follow me as I lead through the darkness
As I provide just enough spark, that we need to proceed
Carry on, give me hope, give me strength,
Come with me, and I won't stear you wrong
Put your faith and your trust as I guide us through the fog
Till the light, at the end, of the tunnel, we gonna fight,
We gonna charge, we gonna stomp, we gonna march through the swamp
We gonna mosh through the marsh, take us right through the doors, come on

Imagine it pouring, it's raining down on us,
Mosh pits outside the oval office
Someone's trying to tell us something, maybe this is God just saying
we're responsible for this monster, this coward, that we have empowered
This is Bin Laden, look at his head nodding,
How could we allow something like this, Without pumping our fist
Now this is our, final hour
Let me be the voice, and your strength, and your choice
Let me simplify the rhyme, just to amplify the noise
Try to amplify the times it, and multiply it by six
Teen million people are equal of this high pitch
Maybe we can reach Al Quaida through my speech
Let the President answer on high anarchy
Strap him with AK-47, let him go
Fight his own war, let him impress daddy that way
No more blood for oil, we got our own battles to fight on our soil
No more psychological warfare to trick us to think that we ain't loyal
If we don't serve our own country we're patronizing a hero
Look in his eyes, it's all lies, the stars and stripes
They've been swiped, washed out and wiped,
And Replaced with his own face, mosh now or die
If I get sniped tonight you'll know why, because I told you to fight

So come along, follow me as I lead through the darkness
As I provide just enough spark, that we need to proceed
Carry on, give me hope, give me strength,
Come with me, and I won't stear you wrong
Put your faith and your trust as I guide us through the fog
Till the light, at the end, of the tunnel, we gonna fight,
We gonna charge, we gonna stomp, we gonna march through the swamp
We gonna mosh through the marsh, take us right through the doors


And as we proceed, to mosh through this desert storm, in these closing statements,
if they should argue, let us beg to differ, as we set aside our differences,
and assemble our own army, to disarm this weapon of mass destruction
that we call our president, for the present,
and mosh for the future of our next generation,
to speak and be heard, Mr. President, Mr. Senator

[Dehumanizer]

11. Done..It's not about supporting Eminem the artist..

but rather NOT supporting Bush the failure of a President.

[Chicago Democrat]

22. After this, I'm a fan... That was the best Kerry ad ever!

:)

[TheWebHead]

12. watch it on LAUNCH and rate it 4 stars

http://launch.yahoo.com/video/default.asp?vid=1131071

..get it in the top 100 too by just playing it, he's already at #1 with 'Just Lose It', so it shouldn't be too hard.

[ciaobox]

24. Done

sweet!

[blueblitzkrieg]

15. Done n/t

[LoZoccolo]

16. Done.

:kick:

[tuvor]

18. Does M&M still hate homosexuals?

Or was that just a convenient way to get attention in the early days?

Whatever, I'm not helping that son of a bitch, even if he knows a bastard of a president when he sees one.

Sorry.

[Guaranteed]

20. He says, "Let's put aside our differences."

Maybe you should, this one time.

[tuvor]

25. "Let's put aside our differences"?

Sorry, I have too much self-respect to trade my homophobic-hating scruples for a TRL vote. Not to mention promoting M&M's career.

Surely there are better songs to do a write-in for.

[rockydem]

27. He never hated homosexuals

If he had why did he do the duet with Elton John?

[tuvor]

29. Oh, I dunno, publicity?

It must've worked. Years later, and you still remember it.

You can't tell me that he considers 'faggot' to be a term of endearment.

[rockydem]

34. you are missing the point

you're typical PC - everything has to be interpreted YOUR WAY for it to be valid...

the culture of hip-hop has alter egos often - Em's alter ego is Slim Shady - and he knocks on everyone and everything as Slim Shady - including himself...

the thing is he made some gay jokes on his first album, it wasn't much - and the PC police made a big deal out of it - he dug in his heals and came out even filthier on his second album, to make a point - and he won the battle. After that he toned it WAY DOWN. A scene in the movie 8 Mile even has him stickin' up for a gay man.

So CHILL OUT!!!!

[tuvor]

46. You wanna tell that to my many gay friends?

And in the meantime I'll be happy to miss any "point". Cry me a river if that's too PC for you.

And I won't tell you to wise up if you don't tell me to "chill," okay? If I can't see M&M's point, why is it MY fault, and not the possibility that he's a poor communicator despite all of his dope rhymes?

One final request: Let's not do this "You're typical PC" bullshit. I expect that on Yahoo, but not here. We've never met, so you have no clue about me, nor I about you. I have reasons for thinking M&M's an overrated prick, and you seem to think there are mitigating factors. I'm fine to agree to disagree, but don't dare to call me names or piss on me for not seeing things the way you do.

I hope we have an understanding and meet under more agreeable circumstances later on.

Cheers.

[RafterMan]

54. See post 51

[sonicx]

41. "bastard"?

why are you insulting kids without dads?

[Chicago Democrat]

21. Done!

I'm 19 here's what I wrote...

Yo this this is Tim from Chicago and Im voting for the first time because I don't wanna go and die for a war based on lies. F*** Bush. I am so proud of my hommie Eminem! You gots to play this video!

[treading_water]

23. I think we crashed it.

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[TheWatcher]

26. For Those that are being hard on Mr. Mathers

You're acting no different than the closed minded republicans you claim to be so against.

I was VERY against this kid and everything he stood for when he first started out. I thought he was a disgusting little brat that spewed hate from every orafice.

But let me tell you something, over the past few years this boy has grown UP. A LOT. You can see it in his person, and you can hear it in his music.

Considering the environment where this kid came from, he's had quite a transformation in a positive direction in his short career.

People CAN Change.

People DO Change.

He's trying.

He's still got growing to do, but he is TRYING.

He has opened his mind up. Try doing the same thing.

Even the most misguided can change their ways.

Don't be so blinded by your bias and judgement that you can't give anyone the benefit of the doubt to someone who is genuinely TRYING.

And in case you didn't notice, he's on OUR Side on this one, and he's got MILLIONS of fans.

Are you willing to sacrifice your country because you can't give someone the benefit of the doubt?

THINK.

[tuvor]

28. But he still hates homosexuals, right?

What if he made derogatory remarks about blacks or jews or hispanics? Would you still be so insistent that we vote on some stupid MTV poll?

What do the rest of our gay friends here on DU think?

[TheWatcher]

30. As far as I know he DOESN'T Hate homosexuals.

People tend to grow when they get out of their environment, especially the one he grew up in.

Like I said, he has tried to open his mind to things that in the past he was so derided on his stance for.

But then again, you are such an authority on the man, you obviously know something we don't.

What is the exact Proof that you have got that he DOES hate homosexuals? Got Links? Got Interviews? Got PROOF? Know the guy personally?

Why don't you calm down and actually WATCH the Video.

It's undeiniably powerful, and I think you might be a little less judgemental if you could SEE what the kid has done.

Or just keep your mind closed and go on deriding something you haven;t seen, and therefore cannot objectively judge.

[tuvor]

47. Can we ditch the sarcasm???

I'm not going to apologize for my opinion of M&M. To the degree that I know my gay friends are extremely uncomfortable with his lyrics, well, that's good enough for me to know that he doesn't exactly accept them with open arms. Or is there some contrition that I've missed?

That all by itself is a huge hurdle for me as far as taking the time to watch, let alone endorsing, his work in any way, and if you can't appreciate where I'm coming from, well, that's life, I guess.

[sonicx]

40. he has made remarks against blacks

It got a lot of press last year i think (he said something about black women when he was younger).

[ciaobox]

48. So what? Have you seen 8 Mile?

or this video? He obviously is not a homophobe or a racist.

[Bombtrack]

32. Has he made a video for it?

[ciaobox]

33. Yes...check it out on Launch

Vote it a "4" after you watch it:

http://launch.yahoo.com/musicvideos/default.asp

[phrenzy]

35. 'Eminem Hates Homosexuals'

Good lord - The only people who think this are the people who are just too dense to 'get' his shtick.

His whole image is an over the top parody to specifically say the most incendiary things to get do-gooders to start wagging their fingers at him. That was his whole M.O. - Kind of the 'inside joke' between him and his fans. They sit back and laugh their asses off as people get all freaked out because he says 'I hit the trees harder than Sonny Bono' or 'I bought Lauren Hills tape so her kids could starve'

When he gets in to the area of using the 'fag' word he is doing so to "piss the world off" Not because he 'hates homosexuals' - Even though he says this in his song 'Criminal' point blank it is CLEARLY there as another instigation.

Anyway, forget about his collaboration with Elton John - Watch 8-mile in which he befriends and DEFENDS his gay co-worker from REAL hate.

People are confusing over the top and admittedly tasteless humor with real bigotry.

[ekwhite]

36. I'm not a rap fan, and I am definitely not a fan of Eminem...

But this video is extraordinary. He managed to put all the arguments against Bush into a compelling 4-minute video. This fifty-two year old is impressed. We want to get this sucker as much play as possible between now and Nov 2nd.

[phrenzy]

39. cool cool

I totally respect it when people aren't fans of rap. That's totally understandable. I don't like Jazz really.

But I wouldn't start to pretend to criticize a Jazz composition or artist when I am not an appreciator of the art form.

That's what is annoying when people that clearly don't "get" it try to hoot and hollar about it. If you have a criticism you can criticize his skills, or his delivery, or the fact that he is too much of a goof-ball - but to think of him as a hate monger or some shit demonstrates a lack of understanding of 'hard rap' in general.

[tuvor]

49. Sounds kind of like some republicans.

Especially certain talk-radio hosts. They'll say something outrageous, and then when the liberals get pissed off they say, 'Can'tcha take a joke?'

Just noticing, that's all.

[ORprogressive]

38. MOSH

Done.

That was powerful.

[Robbie67]

42. This really is a good video

the music and video style really drive it home

Even if you don't like rap or Eminem, see the video.

[HelpIsOnTheWayDamnit]

43. awesome stuff

Bump! i'm gonna spread the word for sure.

[Kimber Scott]

44. Looks like they're going to start playing it tomorrow! Make sure you vote

http://www.gnn.tv/users/user.php?id=2

[ContinentalOp]

45. Great video but damn, what a wack song. -nt-

[951]

50. The beats are hip aight word?

*scratches record*

[Buddyblazon]

51. The guy that got me into Eminem was gay...

I of course knew Eminem's music...but I never really LISTENED to it...until a close gay friend made me sit down and listen to him.

This was in '99. At the same time that everybody was shouting about him being a homophobe. That was the first thing I said to my friend. "Uh...you know he doesn't like gays? Don't you?"

My friend basically told me that he felt the people that were bashing HIM were no better than book burners. They were hearing...and not listening.

And as I was an art major (classically trained musician) I figured I should at least LISTEN to him before I passed judgement. And when I actually LISTENED...a lot of times...the offensive stuff he says is his way of condescending a lot of those people who actually feel that way.

My friend is no idiot either...he's a writer in LA...moderately successful. He's an extremely intelligent guy. He just "gets" Eminem. And since he got me listening to him (I still haven't bought one of his albums) I've realized...that guy is WAY creative. Some of the most innovative rhymes and the intricate poly-rhythms he delivers with vocal cadence in contrast to the drum tracks (it's like "spoken word counter-point"...for any Barouque fans)...shit...I would give a limb for a thimble full of that guys creativeness.

Include thimbles of creativeness from Stevie Wonder, Prince, and J.S. Bach (okay...J.S. literally was...and IS God to the ears of millions of Christians...so that might be a reach) and you'd have my Terminator Musician.

Great video.

[Steelangel]

52. Done!

[secular_warrior]

53. I'm not a fan of Eminem - could care less who he votes for. (eom)