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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 09:02 PM
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Dead silence from my GOP relatives
I am the black sheep in my family - one of those artist, educator types that is inclined to be a liberal. I live in California - they live in Arizona.

So last time around it got a bit dicey. I sort of offended my cousin by sending some pro Gore stuff to her. Bummer, heaven forbid you have to read something that makes you think, but whatever.

So this time around, I send nothing. I respond to the RW spam with the debunks and get back responses of surprise that this crap is actually bogus. (At least there is an acknowledgment)

I haven't heard from them in many many weeks. A couple of days ago I sent the link to the American Conservative editor's endorsement of Kerry. I sort of expected I get some response from that. But nothing.

I don't know what to make of it. We've been pretty close over the past few years. The silence is deafening. I guess I blew it.

MzPip
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 09:07 PM
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1. some folks can't quite admit when they are wrong ya know? my
inlaws have chosen the better part of valor. They come south every year about now and are heading down now, but instead of our usual visit when they first arrive, they are waiting til Thanksgiving to come to see us

Hubby says all agree it's best to wait til after the elections are done

Now where do you suppose they got the idea i'd be too busy to entertain before 11/2? hehehe :evilgrin:
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 09:14 PM
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4. It's pretty weird
When I visited last November I had my Clark button on my purse. One of my cousins asked about it. Said she'd check him out, seemed interested even. GOd knows I really do not want to mix family and politics since this is all that is left of my family and I really do like them as people. They are very old school Republicans - the kind that should be jumping like rats from a sinking ship.

Blood and politics are not a good combination IMHO.

MzPip
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searchingforlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 09:18 PM
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6. Do you think it is going to be better after the elections?
I wonder if it is.

I know that if * wins I will not be satisfied. My distrust is too deep. I will never understand anyone who could vote for him. I will never be able to support him as the leader of my country. I will not be less offended by the Patriot Act, fundamentalist christians, the Iraq war or the lies coming out of Washington.

My sister will be just as disappointed if Kerry wins. She and her husband think we are all doomed to hell. They believe that abortion is always wrong. They believe gays are disgusting. They have money and don't believe in taxes. They don't believe the environment is threatened.

Will everyone lay down their arms and find common ground? I don't think so.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 09:37 PM
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8. Probably not.
It's kind of sad. Some of this is the Catholic thing. They are serious Catholics. The last time I was in a Catholic Church was in 1968 for my father's funeral. I'm a serious black sheep. But they love me because I am artistic and interesting. I do things they would never do, even if they wanted to.

Oh well. I still have the family I married into. My 85 year old in-laws are voting for Kerry. And my sons would no more vote for Bush than for Atilla the Hun.

MzPip
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AmerDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 09:12 PM
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2. sounds to me
you gained. Anyone willing to even consider voting for shrub is someone I would avoid like the plague...and I have!
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maine_raptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 09:12 PM
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3. Embarrassment, Shame and an inability to say "You're right"
Typical re-action for a thinking republican...it's the non-thinkers that get mad for a) shattering their illusions and/or b) not instantly agreeing with their mindset.

If they are thinkers, they'll restore contact after the election.

As for the non-thinkers....that's what they make the "block sender" button for.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 09:16 PM
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5. here in so cal even my repub dad admits that
his vote is gonna get lost in the landslide, at least in CA

Msongs
Riverside Ca

PS - now if I could just get him to see arnold is nothing more than a movie star
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flaminbats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 09:21 PM
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7. same here
some of my Republican relatives never bring up politics like they used to. One who is a lawyer talked about some of the nonpartisan races in Georgia, but he doesn't even mention the Presidential or Congressional races!
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Ksec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-24-04 09:46 PM
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9. I have the same story here .
I havent spoken to my sister or my two brothers who are halfwits supporting the miserable failure.
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truebluecollar Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-25-04 02:04 AM
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10. My bro has downed the Kool Aid
He grew up in an AFL-CIO household with JFK portraits competing for wallspace with crucifixes, he even had an RFK poster in his room. But he's a career soldier who for the past few years has run the ROTC Dept. at a college in Ohio. I think the fact that nearly all of the cadets he's molded, mentored and commissioned are now in the maw of Iraq, and to continue to do his job to the best of his ability (ie-accomplish his mission: producing competent motivated young lieutenants to lead the troops) he has to rationalize that the war is necessary and just and just soldier on. I can understand that, that's one thing, what's blown my mind is how much he has become an apologist and defender of *! We've had some mighty testy exchanges this past year--both convinced the other is a complete asshole. Forty years of looking up to my big brother pretty much down the tubes at this point--all because of that smirking "Uniter."
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