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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 12:32 PM
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A convenient recantation-SBVT arisen from the grave to denounce John Kerry
http://www.onlinejournal.com/Commentary/102004Saunders/102004saunders.html
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A Convenient Recantation

By Nancy Miller Saunders
Online Journal Contributing Writer

October 20, 2004—He has arisen from the grave to denounce John Kerry with the Swift Boat Veterans for "Truth" (SBVT).

At least that's the way it seems to me since, more than 30 years ago, I was told that my young friend Steve Pitkin had died. This past August 22, a Steve Pitkin posted a message on the SBVT website in which he retracted the testimony he gave at the Winter Soldier Investigation (WSI) conducted in the winter of 1971 by the Vietnam Veterans Against the War (VVAW). He declared "the entire testimony I gave was a bold face lie."

In April, 1971, a few months after he testified, Steve and I enjoyed one of those brief but meaningful friendships that blossom in the flurry of preparing for an event that is important to both. In this case we were working on final details for VVAW's biggest demonstration.

...

I can't help but wonder if this Steve Pitkin, who has turned so viciously on Kerry and VVAW, really is the Steve Pitkin I knew. I have seen only written statements, no pictures, no television spots, even though one with him could be twisted into a powerful condemnation of Kerry since the only shots of Kerry in "Winter Soldier" show him with Steve.

Steve had prominent features that would still be identifiable today. Surely, not even the lying SBVT would sink so low as to sully the name of a deceased young man for cynical political gain. Or would they? I don't know.
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Wind Dancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 12:40 PM
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1. This is insane!
I can't begin to understand people who are bound by no ethical or moral character. I pray this nightmare ends soon and the Orwellian world in which we live will start to fade into our memory.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 12:46 PM
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2. SBVT
are total scum of the earth. o'neill would pimp his mother for rove's pat on the head. I'm a Navy Vet and I'd kick each one of their sorry asses given the opportunity. They are typical republicans; no morals, no integrity and no value placed on honesty and the truth. Its really quite a simple equation for me; objections to Kerry's opposition to Viet Nam means a person wanted more American troops to die. Its that simple. Could the swift boat lying veterans exploit a dead sailor? Did george bush desert his military unit to avoid a drug test? Is he skipping a physical now because he has something to hide from americans? Did he criminally profit from insider trading at harken? Does o'neill hate America? The answer to all the questions is yes.
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Southern Patriot Donating Member (295 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 12:52 PM
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3. Ms. Saunders ought to look up Pitkin up.
People change.
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Wind Dancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 12:55 PM
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4. He died 30 years ago.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 04:07 PM
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5. Someone on the Kerry team should look into this
There were other swift boat vets who were surprised to see their names used by the liars. Hard to prove fraud on it, because it boils down to he said/he said.
But to use the name of a dead guy - easy to prove fraud on that.
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Southern Patriot Donating Member (295 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 04:33 PM
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9. Uhm, OK. Guess that I missed that part.
Edited on Thu Oct-21-04 04:34 PM by Southern Patriot
Dead people don't change their opinions that much, I suppose.
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 04:12 PM
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6. The point of her article, is that Steve died 30 years ago..
..and unless they have ANOTHER Steve Pitkin involved with SBVT, they are dealing with a fraud, a lie, or worse. I agree.. she needs to make sure of this, then BLAST them much, much harder.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 04:19 PM
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7. she needs to confirm his death
If you read the whole article, its pretty sketchy on that point. Basically, all I saw was that she "heard" he died. No info on how,when,where, etc. If the guy still is alive (and is just a bozo who's tossed in with the swiftasses), running around demanding investigations will just make folks look foolish.

onenote
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-21-04 04:22 PM
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8. I believe it is a Federal Crime to lie to a Congressional Committee
and I doubt there is any Statute of Limitations on such. If he is indeed the same person and he is saying he lied he could be subject to Criminal prosecution.
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