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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 09:56 AM
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1. Very wise insight
Thank you for sharing it.
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nostamj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 10:03 AM
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2. too true. a kerry win will NOT unite the country

I'd like to believe that IF Kerry can actually make some REAL changes that make life better for *'s deluded 'base' they will see how used they were.

maybe his first action should be mass production of those sunglasses from THEY LIVE?
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 10:06 AM
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3. thanks Pete--good words for DU to keep in mind for after the election
even if Kerry wins the fight will continue, and maybe even get more intense as we defend our position. Take care all. This is the big one.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 10:09 AM
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4. You Nailed It...
And as John Edwards says "it doesn't have to be this way."

It's sad because there are some people of good will who buy Bush's "faux piety" shtick...

He's changed his clothes and adopted new friends but he's the same rich asshole who had his face buried in a mound of cocaine during his so called lost days...
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 10:09 AM
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5. Kerry is winning the polls by 10% when you include everyone who is
registered to vote. The polls vascillate because the polling firms are adjusting for whom they think will show up to vote.

More republicans say they're definitely voting. But democrats outnumber republicans 2:1 among the 60% of Americans who probably won't vote.

So I deal with the polls by going to the local Dem HQ and working to get out the vote.
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sallyseven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 10:15 AM
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6. bush would do himself in
if the media printed what he says and then counter it with what he said last week. Also whenever Kerry speaks they go out of their way to be nasty.
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neoSattva Donating Member (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 11:21 AM
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7. Divided by Fear
It's not geographical, but we are dangerously approaching a civil war. Kerry's most difficult challenge will be to lessen the division that might bring this great experiment in democracy to an end. Just as the Arab world - Hell, just as the entire world - is being torn apart by the fear of those who feel powerless and unheard, and the fear of those who need to hold on to everything they've got, I see fear as the prime divider within our country.

- The religious right is afraid of the evils of Satan.
- Rabid consumers are afraid of not having enough, or not being enough.
- Gangbangers are afraid for their survival and show it as being afraid of nothing.
- Single, working mom's are afraid for their children.
- Businessmen are afraid of the next downturn.
- Workers are afraid of the next layoff.
- Progressives are afraid of the right.
- I'm afraid of what 4 more years of Bush will do to the human race.
- We are afraid of 'Other' whether they be gays, Arabs, Muslims, republicans, fundamentalists, the religious right,......

When we act out of fear, we usually don't do very well - fight, flight or freeze. Our reptilian brains are in control, shutting down our more social and collaborative functions. Bush's answer is to fight. It's a powerful way to appease the fear (to manipulate by the use of fear).

Hopefully Kerry's answer will be to ease the level of fear. To take control away from those who manipulate through fear, and ease us out of this heightened state that severely limits our ability to even talk to each other, let alone to work together for the common good.

One can only hope ~ and work our tails off!

"It doesn't have to be this way."





May all beings have the ease of wellbeing.
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secular_warrior Donating Member (705 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 11:36 AM
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8. You are pretty much on target except that
I don't believe we will be able to simply go about living our everyday lives in our America and they in theirs if Bush wins. They will stop at nothing to destroy us: to subvert the democratic process, to consolidate more media power, to take away our rights, to pursue more wars, to redistribute our tax dollars to the rich. It is exactly what you said - a war - and there will be a winner and a loser.
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Mike L Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-04 11:43 AM
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9. Polls will have * with more votes than he deserves on 11-1-04. See this:
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