Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

NIGHTLINE - UPDATED INFO RE SHOW RE SBV- I *THINK* THIS IS GOOD

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU
 
Tesibria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 07:11 PM
Original message
NIGHTLINE - UPDATED INFO RE SHOW RE SBV- I *THINK* THIS IS GOOD
Edited on Thu Oct-14-04 07:14 PM by Tesibria
See http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/Vote2004/story?id=166434&page=1

Vietnamese witnesses contradict SBV claims....

Clips...
Less than a kilometer upriver is Nha Vi, a small hamlet. Vo Van Tam, now 54, was a local Viet Cong commander during the war. According to him, the area was a hotbed of guerrilla activity. They had recently been reinforced by a 12-man unit, supplied with small arms and one B-40 rocket launcher. He said the reinforcements had been dispatched from provincial headquarters specifically to target the Swift boats.

According to Vo, there were at least 20 Viet Cong soldiers at Nha Vi there that day. "There were 12 soldiers from the provincial level and eight from the district level," he said.

His wife, Vo Thi Vi, 54, said Feb. 28, 1969, is a day that the villagers of Nha Vi hamlet will never forget. "Everything was destroyed," she said. "There's no houses left. They leveled everything. There was no leaves left. The fighting was very fierce."

According to the citation for Kerry's Silver Star, when the boats approached the hamlet, "a B-40 rocket exploded close aboard PCF 94" — Kerry's boat. He "personally led a landing party ashore in pursuit of the enemy," the citation says, before commending Kerry's "extraordinary daring and personal courage" for "attacking a numerically superior force in the face of intense fire."

That account is disputed by Swift boat veteran John O'Neill, author of "Unfit for Command," who maintains in his book that the statement "is simply false. There was little or no fire."

***
Villagers say this is what they saw:

"Firing from over here. Firing from over there. Firing from the boat," Vo Thi Vi told Nightline.

She was only a couple hundred yards away when a Swift boat turned and approached the shore, she said, adding that the boat was unleashing a barrage of gunfire as it approached.

"I ran," she recalled, "Running fast. … And the Americans came from down there, yelling 'Attack, Attack!' And we ran."

Her husband Tam said the man who fired the B-40 rocket was hit in this barrage of gunfire. Then, he said, "he ran about 18 meters before he died, falling dead."

***
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 07:18 PM
Response to Original message
1. O'Neil needs to be exposed and publicly shamed...
...for the lying traitor that he is.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rumguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 07:20 PM
Response to Original message
2. I want the SBVT destroyed publicly
I want their names to be mud.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
nicktom Donating Member (221 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 07:33 PM
Response to Original message
3. This sounds like must see TV,
it would seem to show John O'Neil as a bald face lier. I think it's great to see ABC go to this length to get the facts.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
juliagoolia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 08:46 PM
Response to Reply #3
12. will they also do the against the war
activities justice too.. will they show younger americans what america was like during that time ..what the temp of the nation was..

that my lai was before the vvaw march and winter soldier. will they? Will they show that the Senate asked Kerry up to talk and set up Cameras on him?? Will they?

I can only hope
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 09:00 PM
Response to Reply #12
14. Will they?
Hope floats!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
evilqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 08:58 PM
Response to Reply #3
13. O'Neill *is* a bald-faced liar
He was a shill for Nixon. He had his 15 minutes of fame on the Dick Cavett Show back in the Seventies. Now he writes this book, still pushing the lies, trying to get his name out there again... still chasing Kerry with a lie.

I am ashamed to know this jerk is of Irish descent, he gives us all a bad name. In the olden days, he would be an outcast from the O'Neill clann... prey to the worst dregs of Irish social structure that then existed.

(I'm a MacDermot, we were aligned with the O'Connors, descendants of a long line of Irish hero-chieftains.)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jackstraw45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 07:43 PM
Response to Original message
4. CALL every RW'er you know who has brought this up
This is sounding MUCH better than it did a few hours ago.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BillZBubb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 07:47 PM
Response to Original message
5. But those were phony Vietnamese.
They were "forgeries" made to make Kerry look good. Those sandals they were wearing couldn't have come from Vietnam. They were probably Kerry workers in disguise. The press has been duped again. You can't trust them.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 08:12 PM
Response to Reply #5
8. New Roman sandals for the Times?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 07:55 PM
Response to Original message
6. I'm surprised that Sinclair didn't demand Nightline not air this.
When is it on BTW?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ivote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 08:09 PM
Response to Reply #6
7. Nightline Tonight
11:30 pm Eastern
:kick:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
brooklynite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 08:13 PM
Response to Original message
9. Well, GEE, you can't trust the Vietnamese...
after all, they're a bunch of commies who want Kerry elected.

...at least, that's what I expect the merry folks at FR will say.



Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
RafterMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 08:16 PM
Response to Original message
10. Also remember
that Ted has a personal feud with the Sinclair guys. This could be a preemptive strike against their agenda.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BUSHOUT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 08:29 PM
Response to Original message
11. I figured the EMAIL NIGHTLINE!! reaction this morning might be premature..
We need to be careful of knee-jerkiness a' la CBS "The Reagans".

Now, we'll see if the media gives this any attention.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Wed May 08th 2024, 05:14 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC