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freetobegay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:44 PM
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Whats up with Mrs. Cheney?
Following the debate Lynn Cheney accused Kerry of pulling a "cheap and tawdry political trick."

Why was she silent when Illinois GOP Senate candidate Alan Keyes called her a "sinner" and a "selfish hedonist."?
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:46 PM
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1. Excellent point.
I'm emailing that to Crossfire. It will come up on the show today. Heard it on CNN.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:46 PM
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2. Uh, maybe, politics???
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:49 PM
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4. there's a saying that goes, "it takes one to know one"
:)
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obnoxiousdrunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:48 PM
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3. As Bill Maher
said this is one of those fake outrages. One like the Janet Jackson booby outrage.
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sisenor Donating Member (196 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:49 PM
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5. She said that?
Ouch, coming from a Cheney, that hurts, after all, they are the masters of cheap and tawdry political tricks.
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:49 PM
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6. Because HER statement is a cheap and tawdry political trick
They parade Mary out to get gay votes and when someone mentions it they "act" all indignant.

Hypocrites.

Sounds like she is really really pissed that her gay daughter is causing the Bushco trouble and so spins it back at Kerry.


In all honesty I wish Kerry had avoided the issue, but I DO think it was fair play (I think the campaign told him to do it and he decided to -- you could see the pause and decision to say it)

It was risky and he knew it. BUT it is true what he said AND itr needed to be said to demonstrate Bushco's idiocy and hypocrisy.

How do gay folks on DU feel about it though. I was wondering.
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freetobegay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:52 PM
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8. Well being Gay I don't have a problem with it.
She is part of her fathers campaign team. Although she is out of the closet, I am all for outing closeted people that vote against equal rights for Gays & believe me they are out there!
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:53 PM
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9. Why should it not have been said by Kerry???...it is not like he has
outed her. This has been out since the 2000 election.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:56 PM
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14. What is so risky about stating the facts?
Kerry was asked a fairly loaded question about whether or not people were born gay or do the chose to be gay. Gee Mr. Schielfer, did you chose to be heterosexual?

Kerry saw the door open and he walked through it. I don't blame him.

This is a great issue. Already, Lynn Cheney is attacking Kerry for telling the truth and calling it a cheap and tawdry trick? The cheap and tardy trick is a family who will talk about their daughter's sexuality when it is to their political advantage, but then pretends she doesn't exist, when it came time to bring the family up on stage, at the end of the convention.

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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:50 PM
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7. Great point...I think this should be out over and over again...this is
the only way to keep these thugs down..This should be a quote on the front page of DU!!!
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freetobegay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:54 PM
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11. I agree!
So I would ask people to nominate this thread for the home page.
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:53 PM
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10. She made the comments
at a Bush "loyalty oath" rally, I believe. I really hope a reporter will follow up and ask her why it is "tawdry" to acknowledge that her daughter is a lesbian as if it is something she should be ashamed of. Seems to me she would be boxed in by her answer: either she looks like a bigot, even to her own daughter, or she further alienates the "she's a degenerate sinner!" base.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:54 PM
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12. I haven't watched cable in a couple of days (except cspan).
I keep hearing how Mrs. Cheney is upset. Did someone interview her or was this in a news report? Did she say the same thing about Edwards?
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:54 PM
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13. A stick .... no a tree trunk is up her ass!
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Catfight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:57 PM
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15. Bush called Mary Cheney a SINNER during his Hate of the Union
and Lynne didn't have a problem with that. GUess you could call her a hypocrite.
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blueblitzkrieg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 12:58 PM
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16. No, trying to write discrimination into the US Constitution...
was a "cheap and tawdry political trick", Lynne. Where was youre outrage then?
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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 01:00 PM
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17. The key is Kerry doesn't think it's something to be ashamed of
the Republicans and her mother do.
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berry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 01:06 PM
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18. At the same press-op, she called Kerry "an abomination"
and she repeated this at least once more. I got the feeling that she was using that word in a fundy way. It gave me the shivers. UGH!

But it makes a kind of demented (politically tricky) sense for her to project the fundy belief that gayness is an "abomination" onto Kerry. Trying to shore up the bigoted base, I guess.

But to non-gay-haters, this name-calling of Kerry would just make her look even more hateful and rabid than usual, no?
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 01:29 PM
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19. Mrs. Cheney is a PAID OPERATIVE of the GOP and OUTRAGE is her profession
She will say WHATEVER it takes to keep her husband in power.

That is why she is portraying a compassionate statement by Senator Kerry as an "abomination."
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