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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 02:57 PM
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Dean's Corruption in the Green Mountain State
Dean's Corruption in the Green Mountain State
by Josh Frank
Dissident Voice
September 18, 2003


William Sorrell met Howard Dean twenty-five years ago, when Sorrell's mother introduced the two during a neighborhood gathering. Grandma Sorrell was a Democratic Party loyalist, and an activist to boot. At the time, her son William was a rookie state attorney, and Howard a young doctor with political aspirations. They connected immediately. Both had hopes of climbing among Vermont's elite, where they could flaunt their power freely.
--SNIP--
It wasn’t long before Sorrell started benefiting from Dean’s unexpected job promotion. A year after stumbling into the Governor's mansion, Dean made Sorrell Vermont's Secretary of Administration. Three years later Dean was back at it, selling his man again. This time for the Chief Justice position of Vermont's Supreme Court. It wasn’t long before Sorrell started benefiting from Dean’s unexpected job promotion. A year after stumbling into the Governor's mansion, Dean made Sorrell Vermont's Secretary of Administration. Three years later Dean was back at it, selling his man again. This time for the Chief Justice position of Vermont's Supreme Court.

--SNIP--

Sorrell’s breakneck justice doesn’t stop there. On December 2nd 2001, environmental activist Robert "Woody" Woodward was brutally gunned down by police officers in Brattleboro, Vermont while attempting to seek sanctuary in a Unitarian church. Witnesses say that Woodward was only at risk to himself, never threatening any of the parishioners. He rushed in claiming the FBI wanted him dead. Moments later three police officials stormed the church. According to official reports, one officer immediately opened fire on Woodward. Another officer then discharged his weapon into the air. The helpless Woodward fell to the ground, curled in the fetal position - and then was shot four more times. In total, 7 bullets riddled his defenseless body. Woodward suffocated in a pool of his own blood.

More @
http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Articles8/Frank_Dean-Sorrell-Corruption.htm

So a Govenor who would be President appoints Croneys and then turns a blind eye to injustice? Is that who we want in the White House representing the American Liberals?

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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 02:59 PM
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1. Whadda buncha shit.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 03:00 PM
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2. *repeats her words in the other Dean-smear thread*
*goes to home page of the website*
*sees this front page story link*

"The Awful Truth About General Wesley Clark"

*giggles and wonders why someone with a Clark avatar would give this site any credibility*
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 03:03 PM
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3. Because the purpose is to smear, not inform.
Didn't you get the memo?:P
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 03:11 PM
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13. what information was shared by those Dean supporters who claimed
Kerry was a "corrupt Washington insider" and "Bushlite"
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 03:13 PM
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14. in this thread?
:eyes:
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specimenfred1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 03:03 PM
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4. Is This a Smear Campaign?
The 1st paragraph: "They connected immediately. Both had hopes of climbing among Vermont's elite, where they could flaunt their power freely."

What's up? Are you saying Dean supports gunning people down? Are you saying Dean supports people suffocating in pools of their own blood?

Well?
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KaraokeKarlton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 03:04 PM
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5. Sad about Woody, but he did take hostages and had a weapon
And he made a move towards an officer with a knife. As sad as it is that the guy was killed, the officer was in a situation where he felt his live was in danger and he reacted. I probably would have done the same thing in his position, despite how much I wouldn't want to have to.

:shrug:
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Bill McBlueState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 03:07 PM
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9. uh-oh!
Don't confuse the thread with facts, KK! :spank:
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KaraokeKarlton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 03:09 PM
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10. It must suck for those who oppose Dean to have a Vermonter here
Ready and willing to smack down the nonsense they post. ;)
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Hep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 03:04 PM
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6. Jesus Christ
Clowning. Here, from the same site:

"The Awful Truth About Wesley Clark"

http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Articles8/DVNS_Wesley-Clark.htm

Learning yet? Are you figuring out how stupid this shit is? Is anyone ready to sit at the grown ups table?
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 04:26 PM
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25. Hint
People who talk about the "grown up table" (and use words like "stupid" and "shit") are rarely invited to sit there.
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NV1962 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 03:07 PM
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7. Quite the ecclectic read
Very interesting style there.

But what's your point?

Is it really your contention that one alleged bad apple makes Dean ineligible?

Please.

Post a more credible source; until then I consider that article a tub of non-descript mud, and I want none of that.
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 03:07 PM
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8. where's the beef
i see a lot of conjecture and no real facts. people in politcs advance in the chain of command?! what a crime!!!! a governor wants to follow established procedures, and let people do their appointed jobs in tragic circumstances?? wow, how come he wasn't impeached for that?? <sarcasm>
this is clearly a hatchet job.
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 03:09 PM
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11. Oh, is this possibly another Dean bashing post by
Edited on Mon Jan-12-04 03:10 PM by liberalnurse
Clark supporters? I don't know why that came to mind as my first impression?

I never served in the military...but I do know what it now feels like to be under assult by a military commander and his troops.

To answer the question....Absolutely, I want Dean in the White House.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 03:13 PM
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16. Well
I wouldn't bet the farm the originator is truly a Clark supporter.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 03:09 PM
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12. The only thing I might take from that
Is that Dean wanted a Chief Justice that wasn't qualified. But I do not pretend to know the facts on that.
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helleborient Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 03:13 PM
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15. Taking office when someone dies "stumbling into office"?
I stopped there...the writer obviously has no respect for readers.

I would guess this is more vile reporting from more supporters that should be reined in by the campaign.
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 03:14 PM
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17. ooh I found some real nasty stuff about Clark on that site
Edited on Mon Jan-12-04 03:15 PM by jonnyblitz
last night. But I chose not to post it because I don't know anything about this site. The title is 'The Awful Truth About Wesley Clark" from the same date as the article you posted, September 18th.
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joefree1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 03:17 PM
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18. Er, thanks for the radical left garbage
As noted in previous post your source also takes down Clark. Did you bother to see that this web site is a supporter of Dennis Kucinch? Although I doubt that he would welcome a bottom dweller such as this garbage.

You drag us all into the gutter with this stuff.

Images from Dean Rocks the House of Blues, Hollywood
From wtmusic http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=919849
From Joefree1 http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=921300


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11cents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 03:19 PM
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19. Ideo-bot site
Horseshit. We don't need this stuff. Dean was a pretty good governor. He's just not the best candidate in the field. Wesley Clark is, and he's gaining by demonstrating his superiority as a candidate, not by bashing the others with spurious charges.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 03:22 PM
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20. The Awful Truth About General Wesley Clark
Edited on Mon Jan-12-04 03:23 PM by Walt Starr
Look! Another article on the site you quoted:



When former cheerleaders of war, former warmongers and former war-supporting journalists suddenly become anti-war, it makes me suspicious. It often seems that, for such people, being anti-war is little more than a cynical posture, a way of scoring points by joining the critique of an unpopular war. They appear to be serving themselves, rather than serving the potential victims of war.

-- Brendan O’Neill





Editor's Note: I've long admired Michael Moore's film work and many of his writings, overlooking his often annoying tendency for self-puffery. Outside of his films, books and articles, Moore has spent a great deal of time and money working on issues kindred to progressives. That said, his recent article/letter imploring General Wesley Clark to run for the presidency on the Democratic ticket reveals that Moore has (temporarily I hope) gone plumb stupid. In the PS to his most recent piece, Moore writes: "Thanks for the astounding response to the Wesley Clark letter (and for your kind comments to me). Over 95% of the thousands of letters received favored the General tossing his helmet in the ring. All were passed on to his organization. More to come on the road to removing Bush..."



Clark announced yesterday that he is running for the presidency as a Democratic candidate.



This is even lamer than folks of liberal, progressive, or left persuasion backing the non-liberal Howard Dean this early in the campaign, when clearly there is a genuinely progressive alternative in the form of Dennis Kucinich. Kucinich is only a "long shot" because liberal and so-called progressive groups have made it a self-fulfilling prophecy by reiterating this over and over, while throwing their time and resources into Dean. Given the positions Kucinich supports that Moore would presumably agree with (single-payer health care, universal pre-kindergarten care for all children, a just peace in the Middle East, scaling back the military budget, repealing NAFTA and other investor rights treaties, principled opposition to the war in Iraq, remove US troops from Iraq, emphasis on alternative energy resources, scaling back corporate power, etc.), I would think Moore would be putting a spotlight on and rallying folks to support Kucinich. All of this shows what a pathetic state of affairs the Left is in here in the US


http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Articles8/DVNS_Wesley-Clark.htm

Edited to add This just goes to show how over the top your source is. Both articles are blatanat crap.
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Hep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 03:23 PM
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21. Good ole stick and move by the OP.
Too bad OP didn't stick around for the discussion.
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 03:25 PM
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22. Hey, I've heard that before
B-)
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 03:26 PM
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23. So have I!
Hey Cheswick, how ya doin'?
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specimenfred1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 03:40 PM
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24. Still No Response Eh?
Geraldo Rivera is propagandizing on Faux now, perhaps you should go watch him for your next post idea. How about something like "Dean drinks the blood of innocent babies" and "Clark is going to stop the Evil ones"!

Seriously, that post was pure propaganda.

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Constitution Donating Member (313 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-04 04:52 PM
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26. This is what I believe we can expect from Dean in the White House
However, I don't believe Dean will ever be in the White House.
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