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requiem99 Donating Member (663 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 10:27 AM
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Any of you guys seen this article by CBS on undecideds?
A quote near the end of the article:

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I'm not only decided, I think that people who can’t decide which one of these two ought to be president even before they watched the debates, aren't undecided. They're stupid.

I think you'll all agree with me on that.

SNIP

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/10/08/60minutes/main648221.shtml

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rjbny62 Donating Member (203 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 10:31 AM
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1. undecideds starved for attention
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shaolinmonkey Donating Member (812 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 10:32 AM
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2. So, who's looney rooney decided about?
Is he a wingnut? I sure is annoying to listen to.
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BillZBubb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 10:39 AM
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3. Rooney will vote for Kerry, without a doubt.
He is no wingnut. He thinks the Iraq invasion was one of the worst US foreign policy blunders in history.
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requiem99 Donating Member (663 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 10:41 AM
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4. Only ultra right wing republicans believe many could be undecided.
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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 10:43 AM
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5. It's just the media making this race look closer than it is to make
money on the horserace.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 10:47 AM
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6. I think there are two kinds of Undecideds.
On the one hand there are the passive, tuned-out, unengaged louts who have no clue about what's going on. These are the Inert Undecideds.

On the other hand there are those who are very disturbed by Bush, but who for any number of reasons cannot bring themselves to embrace Kerry. These are the Conflicted Undecideds. They include mainline conservatives, conservative Catholics accustomed to obeying the Church, and a large number of people who have swallowed the whole Right Wing message about Kerry's supposed lack of principles, Vietnam turncoatism, Swiftie lies, etc. It is these Conflicted Undecideds who are responsible for the high "Want somebody other than Bush" and "Country on the wrong course" numbers that do not match the Bush v. Kerry numbers.

Of course these two groups do not form a simple dichotomy but lie at opposite ends of a continuum. Nevertheless, the ideal approaches to each of these two groups are very different, with the passive Inerts presumably requiring simple motivation and education to get them to the polls and voting for their own interests, while the Conflicted types are a tougher nut to crack. I think we need to develop a typology for them and a quick "diagnostic" approach so we can quickly identify and neutralize the specific issues that are holding them back from a Kerry vote.
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Shadow30 Donating Member (400 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 10:48 AM
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7. These undecideds....
.....are the same people you see at the front of a long line at a take out place going "I'm not sure what I want." and you want to scream "WILL YOU JUST ORDER SOMETHING!".
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-04 11:58 AM
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8. The 'Undecided' Voters on the Town Hall Debate Didn't Look Undecided to Me
Of course, with Gallup picking them, they got in enough Rethug shills
to ensure that ALL of the Rovian talking points got covered. Looks
like a few Kerry supporters got in too, but were any of those voters
really undecided?

If anybody is really undecided at this point,
how likely is it that they will even vote?
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