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requiem99 Donating Member (663 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 11:38 AM
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Why are pundits not hammering Bush for his angry rule breaking?
When Gore walked over to Bush they couldn't bash his face in fast enough in the spin, but Bush basically threw a tantrum and everyone ignores it?

We've got to MAKE them cover this, as it shows he is not a good man in a crisis.
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JuniorPlankton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 11:40 AM
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1. Make them say
he is a stubborn idiot who can't admit any mistakes.
He was asked that question before and he again ignored it.
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requiem99 Donating Member (663 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 11:41 AM
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2. Yes, I was at a Kerry 'house party' last night for the debate
And we were all saying "Watch, he won't admit to anything", half expecting it to be true, and it was!
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 11:41 AM
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3. I wanted to make that point on Washington Journal
on CNN this morning, but every time I called the line was busy.

I have never been able to get through to talk on this show although I have tried many times.

Anyone here ever spoken on this show?

They did mention the rectangle in the back of Shrub's jacket in Debate #1, though.
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meow2u3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 11:43 AM
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4. Bush can do no wrong as far as they're concerned
In the eyes of the pundits, most of whom want Bush back in office, Bush can do no wrong and Kerry can do no right--except if it's obvious Kerry is outclassing Bush!

They can keep trying to polish a piece of shit and sell it as a Tootsie Roll, but Americans know it doesn't pass the smell test.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 11:48 AM
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5. because it is manly.......it is the bullshit repug male
Edited on Sat Oct-09-04 11:48 AM by seabeyond
style that we are all suppose to admire so. the intimidation bullshit our nation wants to go back to. the intimidation of female, the intimidation of citizen, the intimidation of the world. and we sit back and allow. well i have three girlie men (2 boys) in my house. both my boys are having to deal with these manly men bullshit 9 year old boys that are being created because of the enrgy of this bullshit manly man crap bushco administration is feeding us

and i am about damn tired of it

anyone else
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sugargoose Donating Member (270 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 12:27 PM
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8. Did you see the men vs women results
On CNN they had a small focus group that rates the men and their answers in real time. I was so shocked to see that the women rated Bush much higher than the men. How do you explain this?

I guess I did see on another interview that one woman said she is voting for Bush because she feels safe going to the mall.


WTF??
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 12:45 PM
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11. wtf is right..........i feel like women have stepped back
a century here, after 9/11 and bushie boys and many other things in our culture right now. i saw two repug girls, college students last nitetalking to hard ball maybe validating that behavior and saying was presidential. when our children see this behavior as good stuff, acceptable stuff, we have a pretty good clue we have f* ed up. this feeds intimidation and us women have always been on the abusive end of intimidation. i hate to see females see this as an acceptable way of life. big step backwards
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Carolinian Donating Member (861 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 12:57 PM
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12. Bush's idea of women's right looks good.
If you live in Afghanistan.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 04:30 PM
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15. f9/11.........taliban a visitin bushie boy
and a woman said something about the way women treated in afghanistan. the taliban dude says, i feel for your husband, must have a hard time with you. bet asshole bush had a good laugh at that. why every woman isnt disgusted by this man. to be under the illusion he likes women, he hates them, are afraid of them and only can handle them if he has a control over him. all one has to do is look at the power and control and making him feel like the little boy his mom did to him. then throw in his christian coalition religion of submissiveness.

man, people are stupid
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Carolinian Donating Member (861 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 06:31 PM
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16. We need a thread just for women's rights & Bush.
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wildflower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 12:16 PM
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6. I believe it is very important, for it reflects the way he approaches
his policies, particularly foreign policy.

I like the bumpersticker I've seen here that says "Yeehaw! is not a foreign policy."

This is the essence of what we saw last night. "I am going to do whatever I want, whenever I want to do it, no matter what anyone else thinks."

But there is a problem with this: a little thing called...diplomacy.

Politicians and their constituents have historically disagreed on many things, but most have agreed that diplomacy is essential in a leader.

Ours is the president who, when there is a local natural disaster, talks about "neighbor helping neighbor" and communities working together.

Well, guess what? America is a community. The world is a community. We all need each other.

In a community, we need to learn to resolve our differences and work together: to divide labor, to feed, shelter, and protect each other.

What * showed last night was but a microcosm of his lack of the concept of diplomacy. And it is that lack which has harmed him, our country, and our world, the most.

This is not about letting someone else "give a veto" over what we know is best, whether it's Charlie Gibson or France. It's about learning to work with others. To compromise. To do what's in the best interests of all involved. Even Ronald Reagan could do that.

There is a famous story about the difference between heaven and hell. (I paraphrase here.)

In hell, people are sitting around a table covered with food, and each person has only a very long spoon. They perpetually try to get the spoon into their mouths, but cannot. It is too long.

In heaven, again, people are sitting around a table covered with food, and each person has only a very long spoon. But the people are using the spoons to feed each other.

That is why we need to work together. That is why diplomacy is just as much a necessity in our world, and especially in our politicians, as military might. In fact, I would argue that it is even more necessary.

As Clinton pointed out at the Democratic Convention, "We live in an interdependent world in which we cannot possibly kill, jail or occupy all of our potential adversaries." At some point, we must learn the skill of cooperation toward a common goal.

-wildflower
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Ranec Donating Member (336 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 02:39 PM
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13. A very good post!
This is what we have to be telling everyone!

:bounce:
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wildflower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 03:01 PM
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14. Thanks...I was thinking of sending something like this as an LTTE...
or e-mail to the media. Probably a reworked, shorter version.

:hi:

-wildflower
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 12:18 PM
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7. no one cares about rules
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wildflower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 12:29 PM
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9. Or they care about them only when * is made unhappy...
Was it me or did Charlie look rather taken aback by *'s outburst?

-wildflower
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alarcojon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 06:38 PM
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18. unless it's the Democrats breaking them
of course.
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Marymarg Donating Member (773 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 12:31 PM
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10. Rules don't apply to them
only to Democrats.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 06:33 PM
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17. They want him to win. War is good business.
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alarcojon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-04 06:39 PM
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19. Your liberal media at work again. eom
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