WARNING: do not watch CNN and CNBC right now!

[dennis4868]

they are spinning so much right now on the job numbers I am dizzy and have to lay down!

[cthrumatrix]

1. they were SOOOO depressed teh second the numbers came out

Larry Kudlow was visibly upset and said that we are suffering from the previous "employment bubble"...WTF is that?

[dennis4868]

4. AND CLINTON'S WORTSE MONTH WAS.....

200,000, give or take 50,000....

[Demi_Babe]

2. assholes

last night everyone was saying the numbers HAD to be about 150000 for Bush to "look good". WTF?

[amber dog democrat]

3. I don't have cable

but thanks for the warning.

( as an old Radio TV Film graduate I use media VERY carefully )

[molly]

5. 96,000 McDonalds and Burger King jobs

[life_long_dem]

12. Don't forget Ebay

[w4rma]

13. Over 1/3 of the 96k are government jobs. Cons will not like that.(nt)

[blueblitzkrieg]

6. Bill Hemmer looked like he shit his pants. n/t

[dennis4868]

7. Tom Brokaw....

looked like that yesterday after the NO WMD REPORT came out....hahahaha...the mainstreem emedia is now in full panic mode....look for the media to declare Bush the winnedr of the debate no matter what....even if Bush takes a dump on an undecided voter Tweety and the rest of the whores will say clear victory for Bush!

[PROGRESSIVE1]

8. Well it was he who reported the WMD crap in the first place.

[KayLaw]

9. It's to be expected

The big corporations who own the media are desperate for a Bush win so they can continue to get big tax cuts for sending our jobs to people in other countries.

[Aries]

11. Excellent one-line summary...

[Mister K]

10. This is the number of jobs added this month...

Does this number take into account how many jobs were lost this month? I saw reports of AT&T laying off about 5,000 people and other companies having layoffs as well.

[w4rma]

14. These numbers are for September so likely wouldn't include the joblosses

you are talking about which just recently, this month, occured.

[papau]

15. GOP's favorite jobs report-household survey, shows 585000 jobs lost

Household Jobs show disaster-labor force drops 1 million, job loss of 585K

The GOP's favorite DOL jobs number, the Household survey number, shows bigger Job disaster than shown in the anemic 96,000 jobs gain in the payroll survey jobs number. The Household Survey reports 201,000 lost jobs in September since 139,681,000 were "seasonal adjusted" employed in Aug less 139,480,000 of Seasonal adjusted folks Employed in Sept., and that is a drop of 201,000 jobs. If you prefer numbers that are not seasonally adjusted, then 140,226,000 less 139,641,000, or 585,000 jobs were lost in Sept.

And that Steady 5.4% Unemployment rate is based on folks no longer being in the labor pool and therefore not counted as unemployed. The seasonal adjusted change is from 147,704,000 looking for work or employed in August to 147,483,000 looking for work or employed in Sept, or 221,000 folks dropped out. If you like non-seasonally adjusted numbers, then 148,166,000 less 147,186,000, or a huge 980,000 folks stopped looking for work or being employed in Sept.

NEARLY ONE MILLION FOLKS STOPPED LOOKING FOR WORK OR BEING EMPLOYED IN SEPTEMBER!!!!





http://www.bls.gov/cps/cpsatabs.htm

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Series Id: LNS12000000Seasonal AdjustedSeries title: (Seas) Employment LevelLabor force status: EmployedType of data: Number in thousandsAge: 16 years and over

Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Annual

2004 138566 138301 138298 138576 138772 139031 139660 139681 139480



Series Id: LNU02000000Not Seasonally AdjustedSeries title: (Unadj) Employment LevelLabor force status: EmployedType of data: Number in thousandsAge: 16 years and over

Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Annual

2004 136924 137384 137691 138423 138867 139861 140700 140226 139641



Series Id: LNS11000000Seasonal AdjustedSeries title: (Seas) Civilian Labor Force LevelLabor force status: Civilian labor forceType of data: Number in thousandsAge: 16 years and over

Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Annual

2004 146863 146471 146650 146741 146974 147279 147856 147704 147483


Series Id: LNU01000000Not Seasonally AdjustedSeries title: (Unadj) Civilian Labor Force LevelLabor force status: Civilian labor forceType of data: Number in thousandsAge: 16 years and over

Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Annual

2004 146068 146154 146525 146260 146659 148478 149217 148166 147186


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PAYROLL SURVEY 96,000 NEW JOBS IN SEPTEMBER

Series Id: CES0000000001Seasonally AdjustedSuper Sector: Total nonfarmIndustry: Total nonfarmNAICS Code: N/AData Type: ALL EMPLOYEES, THOUSANDS

Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Annual

2004 130194 130277 130630 130954 131162 131258 131343 131471(p) 131567(p)

[LowerManhattanite]

16. Hemmer on CNN did have that...

"sigh", how in the f*ck do I spin this crap?" look for a few moments when the numbers came in at 8:30. Then Andy Serwer (who leans a bit Dem) tried to underplay the numbers a bit, but you could see he was radiating an "I'm trying to help the guy out here, 'cause these numbers blow!" aura as he softly spun things. Heidi-whats-her-face on AM tried to backspin hard for Bush when Gephardt came on and slammed the numbers, basically giving the Bush spin after every Gephardt verbal slash at the abysmal numbers.

The problem was, for days GOP spinners were alluding to a better than expected number ranging to a bit above to a possible 100,000 above the 150,000 needed just to break even. But an astute poster here on DU noted last night that the admin usually gets a heads up the day before and while not giving too much detail, start spinning rather positively the afternoon before. There was NO "fore"spin yesterday and the admin didn't even mention the report the poster noted.

And yeah, Kudlow was fairly spitting mad today on CNBC—especially after the capitalist tool spent all week goosing us for great numbers, well cooked. When the pot blew up in his face today, he was practically apoplectic, bleating about how the jobs numbers didn't reallly matter. Which begs the question—if they didn't matter, why were you waiting with bated breath for them and yakking about 'em all week long? Pity the poor, silly, psychedelic-tied freak.

Cavuto's "I got caught shtupping a girl in the last pew by the reverend, my mom and dad and can't talk my way out of it as I'm butt-naked, half-in and covered in sweat" look when HE gave the numbers?

Priceless. :)