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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 09:48 PM
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Have you seen the new 9/11 conspiracy movie "Loose Change"?
Edited on Sun Jun-25-06 09:51 PM by Radio_Lady
I came across it on the Internet and have spent more than an hour watching it. It is quite fascinating. If discussions have taken place on this in the past few weeks, please direct me to the threads involved.

http://www.loosechange911.com/


Korey Rowe / Dylan Avery / Jason Bermas

First, I thought it had been taken off the Internet when I found this website:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/06/05/911_documentary_removed/

But the whole 81-minute production is available tonight 6/25/06 at:

Google Video (Beta)

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8260059923762628848&q=Loose+Change

If you have seen it, or plan to see it, I would like to hear from you.









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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 09:50 PM
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1. It's been on various net sites for quite a while...maybe a year?
I don't recall any recent discussion...
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Wonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 09:51 PM
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2. This thread will be relegated to the 9/11 forum in 5... 4... 3...
2...
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 09:52 PM
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3. Well, I hope not. I would like to have a broader discussion of it --
if possible. Thank you.
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 11:20 PM
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9. UPDATE: Hello, Wonk, I guess you were right. Not ready for GD...
Edited on Sun Jun-25-06 11:20 PM by Radio_Lady
There are just way too many conspiracy theories to lump them all together, I guess.
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 09:53 PM
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4. Thank you, Karl. Have you seen it yourself? It is quite provocative.
I am not a conspiracy-type person, but this does raise some interesting questions.

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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 09:57 PM
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5. Notice of a film showing in (what must be) NYC on July 1st.
Edited on Sun Jun-25-06 10:00 PM by Radio_Lady
From their blog:

6.23.2006
See you there.

8:00 pm, Saturday July 1st, 2006
5155 Nassau Ave
(I assume this is New York City?)

A fund-raiser for one of the people who has contracted disease from breathing the air at the WTC while doing recovery.


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Kingshakabobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 09:59 PM
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6. Here is some debunking of the tinfoilhattery:
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 11:19 PM
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8. Thanks for the information, Kingshakabobo.
Wow, that's some screen name!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 10:03 PM
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 11:22 PM
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10. So, this is my first visit to the September 11th forum. Ask me anything.
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New World Odor Donating Member (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 11:35 PM
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11. convinced?
After seeing the movie,are you convinced of a government cover-up and conspiracy?
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 11:46 PM
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13. Not necessarily. I was just wondering if others here had seen the movie.
Edited on Sun Jun-25-06 11:47 PM by Radio_Lady
I accidentally found it while looking for photos of NYC.

Just interested, as I was in Michael Moore's movie and several others that came out via DVD and the Internet.

Thanks for asking.

In peace,

Radio_Lady (movie reviewer in Portland, Oregon)

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New World Odor Donating Member (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 12:08 AM
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15. Come on!!
Just interested? I say better to assert yourself a bit and end up a loser than to fence strattle.
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 11:36 PM
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12. Is that really you?
By the way that Popular Mechanics article is a hunk of baloney partly written by a relative of Chernoff the DHS czar. Here's a detailed rebuttal:

http://911research.wtc7.net/essays/gopm/indexg.html

Glad you found us! :)
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-25-06 11:49 PM
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14. Is that really me? You mean the photo? Of course! My last studio shot.
Here's a more recent one of me and my husband in London last month.



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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 12:18 AM
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16. Debunking Loose Change
http://www.google.com/search?q=debunking+Loose+Change&start=0

People on all sides of the 9/11 fences are up in arms about Loose Change. This should help you find some pointed debunking, RadioLady.
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 12:43 AM
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17. Hello RadioLady...
Edited on Mon Jun-26-06 12:45 AM by wildbilln864
Many folks on here will try to discredit any sites or films which prove to be provocative regarding 911. The sites or the people asking the questions doesn't matter. It's the questions themselves. The main thing I think we should keep in mind is that the questions are still, after almost five years, unanswered!
How were they able to get away with it? What happened to our defenses that day and why?
Why hasn't anyone been held accountable? Who's really responsible?
Read about "Able Danger". Muhammed Atta was one of the agency's own, else why the sticker? Check out www.madcowprod.com.
Why the administration's resistance to outside scrutiny?
Anthrax?
Put options?
PNAC?
What do you think?
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 01:21 AM
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18.  Hello, RadioLady....
Many folks here will try to discredit anyone who has anything bad to say about their pet theory, having no idea what they actually think about things. When you go over to MadCowProductions, like WildBilln864 suggests, you'll find a few articles in Hopsicker's archive where he trashes such 9/11 "luminaries" as Michael Ruppert, David Ray Griffen, Dave Von Kliest, and more. They're under the heading Cointelpro 9/11, and there's at least three of them.

Bottom line: you think that the Bush Administration is slinging bullhockey about 9/11? They aren't the only ones...
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Bushwick Bill Donating Member (605 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 08:33 AM
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19. More media for you.
But before that, Loose Change is not all bad.

Sifting Through Loose Change.
http://www.911research.wtc7.net/reviews/loose_change/index.html

Here is a response to the Popular Mechanics hit piece.
http://www.911research.wtc7.net/essays/pm/index.html

Here are more movies.
"Everybody's Gotta Learn Sometime." This doesn't focus on physical evidence at all.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6757267008400743688
http://www.911podcasts.com/display.php?vid=92
"What's The Truth - How Indeed Did the Towers Collapse?" I encourage you to watch minutes 45-60.
http://www.911podcasts.com/display.php?vid=95

More media available here.
http://www.911blogger.com/
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-26-06 06:22 PM
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20. Thanks, everyone. I appreciate your taking the time to answer me.
We just returned from New York City and a visit to Ground Zero -- the second one we have made since 9/11. We were there in November 2001 and then again in May 2006.

I was just wondering what theories people were sharing on this forum --

I'm old enough to recall all of the conspiracy theories in the Kennedy assassination and the vitriol that was passed around on that subject.

Frankly, I really don't want to immerse myself in endless controversy. Just curious about all this, that's about it.

In peace,

Radio_Lady in Oregon
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 10:26 PM
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21. maybe in a quiet moment or two sit down and read
the new pearl harbor by david ray griffin

it certainly gives one something to ponder....
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RedSock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-29-06 10:39 PM
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22. paul thompson's "terror timeline"
check out paul thompson's book: "the terror timeline"

if you have questions about 9/11, it's probably the best $20 you'll spend.

which is a condensed version of his complete 9/11 timeline
http://www.complete911timeline.org/project.jsp?project=911_project

i guarantee that if you spend a couple of hours with the timeline, you'll have smoke coming out of your ears.


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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-30-06 12:42 AM
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23. i have read it--david ray griffin refers to it all through his book
they are both extremely interesting

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