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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-07-05 05:47 AM
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Heir spending fortune on 9/11 theory
December 7, 2005

TAMPA - The twin towers were brought down by explosives planted inside the buildings. A defense missile, not a commercial airliner, crashed into the Pentagon.

Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz and other government officials "actively participated" in the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, and are willing to carry out a similar attack again. And all along, the American media deliberately have not reported the Truth.

Jimmy Walter came home to Tampa on Tuesday with a laundry list of conspiracy theories, a public relations team in tow, tons of cash to spend on advertisements and polls and a panel of experts who agree the government's account of Sept. 11 is a sham.

"I'm trying to stop the real terrorists," the 58-year-old, eccentric son of home building tycoon Jim Walter said during a morning news conference in the lobby of the Don Vicente de Ybor hotel. "It wasn't 19 Arabs who did this."

The Tampa event marked the latest stop on his world tour - he has already appeared in Madrid, London, Paris, Rome and other European cities - to convince the public that the Bush administration helped perpetrate the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.

http://www.sptimes.com/2005/12/07/Tampabay/Heir_spending_fortune.shml



So I guess we're not the only ones who believe in MIHOP. Nice to see someone with money trying to do something about it.

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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 01:01 PM
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1. I'm glad that people keep this alive... we've allowed the Kennedy
assassination slip into history, but I think it's important to the fate of our republic that we not allow these thugs to get away 911.
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Rich Hunt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 02:39 PM
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2. wonderful

I'm so excited. Finally someone with money believes us! Um, who the hell is Jimmy Walter? What are his origins, why is he doing this, and why should we automatically trust him and cheer him on?

Furthermore, this article is not good journalism. Note the dishonest tactics here:

"TAMPA - The twin towers were brought down by explosives planted inside the buildings. A defense missile, not a commercial airliner, crashed into the Pentagon.

Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz and other government officials "actively participated" in the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, and are willing to carry out a similar attack again. And all along, the American media deliberately have not reported the Truth.

Jimmy Walter came home to Tampa on Tuesday with a laundry list of conspiracy theories, a public relations team in tow, tons of cash to spend on advertisements and polls and a panel of experts who agree the government's account of Sept. 11 is a sham."


DU usually asks for the first three paragraphs. Well, those are the first three paragraphs. Does that look like objective reporting, or a political statement? And then, worst of all, 'the Truth' is capitalized. Who the hell edits this paper?

All I'm asking is that people not compromise professional standards, as was done with this article. Nor is it in anyone's interest to unquestioningly applaud a lack of professionalism in the service of their own theories.


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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 03:21 PM
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3. you seem to confuse feature writing with news reporting
There is a semi-legitimate distinction to that, and it's obvious that this was intended as a rather brief entertainment notice more than anything else.

Papers give blowjobs to visiting poobahs all the time. The common denominator is money. Even the NYT covered Jimmy (the grand distorter of the 9/11 truth message). It rewarded an advertiser and allowed them to use their favorite word ("millionaire.")
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philb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 10:55 AM
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11. Has anyone seen the Reopen911 video? How good is it?
any interesting revelations?
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chinchilla Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 05:33 PM
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15. the 'reopen 911' dvd is pretty good..
it seems to address the obvious points of interest quite well, and there is a lot of info in there..

not being up on whats been out there previously, i wouldnt like to say if there are any 'new' disclosures, but as someone from the uk, who thought 'something isn't right here'.. it served its purpose... i.e. to make me want to find out more... i have, and i'm shocked.

hence this.. my first post...!


mmm..... feels good
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sabbat hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 04:00 PM
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4. broken link
link doesnt work.

would like to know how explosives got into the WTC and what happened to the plane if it didnt crash into the pentagon.

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petgoat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 04:06 PM
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5. working link
http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/sptimes/938198491.html?MAC=7d4bb70bfa1462cea59cce371c90c12e&did=938198491&FMT=FT&FMTS=FT&date=Dec+7%2C+2005&author=BRADY+DENNIS&pub=St.+Petersburg+Times&printformat=&desc=Heir+focuses+on+Sept.+11+theory

"how explosives got into the WTC"

"Freight elevators" is not a facetious answer.
It was the World Trade Center. A lot of tenants
warehoused product in their offices.
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philb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 10:43 AM
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9. You know thats been answered before
lots of posts on whether Fl 77 ever existed and where it went if it did,
and the connection to the 3 official Flight 11 versions, one of which was
said to have bypassed N Y and to be headed to D.C., and the NORAD planes
that were scrambled to intercept it; and FAA report that Fl 77 crashed or landed
in Kentucky; and radar flight track showing Fl 77 going to Kansas; and some plane
landing in Cleveland with lots of unknown passengers that information hasn't been
released as to what happened to them.

etc.
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martymartin Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 04:45 PM
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6. Jimmy Walter - how to get in touch?
Any ideas on how I can get in touch with Jimmy Walker?
I would like to support his efforts.
Where is he touring next?
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 05:56 PM
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7. IIRC, he's the one who thinks the WTC towers were brought down by
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 09:03 PM
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8. Here's his website
http://www.walden3.org/index.htm

His father is a major builder in FL. of so called 'affordable' cookie cutter homes.
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philb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 10:48 AM
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10. Here's his 9/11 site
Edited on Sat Dec-10-05 10:48 AM by philb
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philb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 11:28 PM
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12. Reopen911 site cites evidence for explosions involved in towers fall
"If the force of the falling building is strong enough to pulverize concrete then the bolts and rivets would have to hold beyond that force - and then give way. Yet the force to pulverize concrete into fine powder is greater than the force that sheers or stretches steel bolts and rivets. It cannot be both ways."

" At 6.1 seconds into the video flash at the top of this page and in our screen saver shows pieces of the building flying UP and out from the building over 100 meters. Only explosives could have done this."


Statements on the Reopen911 site

I tend to agree with these statements. Anyone have an explanation to the contrary?

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philb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 11:32 PM
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13. Clear warnings before 9/11 and clear evidence Condoleezza lied
"Condoleezza Rice was the top National Security official with President Bush at the July 2001 G-8 summit in on Genoa. This was where U.S. officials were warned that Islamic terrorists might attempt to crash an airliner into the summit, which prompted officials to close the airspace over Genoa and station anti-aircraft guns at the city's airport".


"On August 6, 2001, just over a month before 9/11 and during the "summer of threat", President Bush received a Presidential Daily Briefing (PDB) at his Crawford, Texas ranch, entitled Bin Laden Determined to Strike in the US The August 6th memo focused entirely on the possibility of terrorist attacks inside the US.”

from the Reopen11 web site; these have been posted before

also hundreds more warnings before 9/11
http://www.flcv.com/warnings.html

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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 07:00 PM
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14. Also, on 9/16/01 the Telegraph ran a story
claiming that Israeli security issued an urgent warning to CIA of large-scale terror attacks in August, 2001. Funny thing about this particular article, considering Richard Perle's ties to this rag at the time, is that he sets out many of the talking points for future discussions about the WTC attack.



6/09/2001)

ISRAELI intelligence officials say that they warned their counterparts in the United States last month that large-scale terrorist attacks on highly visible targets on the American mainland were imminent.

The attacks on the World Trade Centre's twin towers and the Pentagon were humiliating blows to the intelligence services, which failed to foresee them, and to the defence forces of the most powerful nation in the world, which failed to deflect them.

The Telegraph has learnt that two senior experts with Mossad, the Israeli military intelligence service, were sent to Washington in August to alert the CIA and FBI to the existence of a cell of as many of 200 terrorists said to be preparing a big operation.

"They had no specific information about what was being planned but linked the plot to Osama bin Laden and told the Americans that there were strong grounds for suspecting Iraqi involvement," said a senior Israeli security official.

http://news.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2001/09/16/wcia16.xml

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