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MadisonProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 09:09 AM
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Bow-tie give short shrift to 9/11 explosives theory
Fucker Carlson wouldn't even show the video clip that was sent to him. He made the guy sound like a whacko!

http://video.msn.com/v/us/v.htm?g=9d06140d-6e7e-4c83-ba21-481991123d70&f=copy
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 09:12 AM
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1. He IS a whacko. nt
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MadisonProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 09:17 AM
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3. What do you base your opinion on?
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 10:03 AM
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6. I'm sure he prefers the comfy fantasy provided by the White House
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 03:11 PM
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12. You'd be jumping to a hasty and unwarranted conclusion.
Edited on Tue Nov-15-05 03:14 PM by greyl
It's not like "controlled demolition" is the only possible scenario that is being covered up by the white house.
It's just one of the most ridiculous.
And I base that conclusion on doing my own research to determine the veracity of the plentiful alternative theories out there. I used to believe that no plane hit the pentagon, so don't think my mind is closed to the fact that governments lie like hell - especially our current government.
Keep in mind that this prof didn't do his own research, and search his name for some of the other things he's been involved in that indicate that he's less than a trustworthy authority on matters better left to objective critical thought.

edit: btw, i'm sure you know this but, jumping to hasty conclusions is not something a serious investigator does. ;)
I believed the missile hit the pentagon story for about a day and a half. I've learned a lot in the past 4 years.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 09:14 AM
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2. I could do without the animation on your post. nt
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MadisonProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 09:18 AM
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4. Removed!
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 09:59 AM
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5. You're great, thanks!!
Keep up the Good Fight!

Mook
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MadisonProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 10:23 AM
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7. It's kind of funny...
I thought the rat humping the mouse was funny when I first saw it, but I was beginning to get really disconcerted everytime I opened one of my own posts! It was kind of gross wasn't it? Thanks for reminding me to get rid of it!
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zann725 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 10:45 AM
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8. Yeah, but he IS wearing his bow-tie UN-TIED recently. That "says" much
for someone so "uptight" Right. While his face still makes me nauseous, the little bit of the end of his show I do "catch" when tuning into "Countdown"...what I notice about "bow-tie" is that he IS bending a little left now, "trying"...and I emphasize "trying" to be almost as "hip" as Keith O., whose show follows his, and clearly outranks "bow-tie"'s in the ratings.
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dabluz Donating Member (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 11:00 AM
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9. Government says no!
I remember a few years ago the gov. saying not to replay those videos.After reading the New Pearl Harbor I now know why.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 02:31 PM
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11. Hi dabluz!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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dabluz Donating Member (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 05:45 PM
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13. Thanks
I've been lurking for a long time.It's hard to respond when you have work to do,thanks again.
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 12:25 PM
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10. what really happened on 9/11 in the time bomb . . .
that will eventually explode in BushCo's collective faces . . . there is nothing Americans are more passionate about, and when they find out for sure that the "official" story isn't what went down, all hell will break loose . . .
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Independent_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-15-05 09:28 PM
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14. You could tell Fucker couldn't handle him.
:)
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 12:26 AM
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15. Tucker can't handle his own raisin nuts.
There are plenty of reasonable progressives who could "handle" the prof.
Tucker was on the right side of the argument, but I'm sure he still coughed up some doozy bullshit in the midst of ridiculing the guy.
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 12:28 AM
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16. I guess "I'm with stupid", then.
I guess I had to agree with Carlson on something, eventually.

:shrug:

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OKthatsIT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 06:57 AM
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17. I'm definitely with stupid
we're going to get all those bastards
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MadisonProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 12:36 PM
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18. Tucker Carlson's response to his guest and emails
9/11 theorist clearly hits a nerve (Tucker Carlson)


We've never had an e-mail response like the one we got after Monday's segment with Stephen Jones, a professor in the department of physics and astronomy at Brigham Young University. Jones believes that the World Trade Center buildings were likely brought down by bombs, rather than by hijacked planes on 9-11. "Use of powerful, pre-positioned explosives in the WTC buildings would imply an 'inside job'," Jones writes in a paper available on the BYU website. "Clearly, we must find out what really caused the WTC skyscrapers to collapse as they did."

When one of my producers first told me about him, my first thought was: Stephen Jones is insane. And he may be. On the other hand, he does have a legitimate job and a responsible-sounding title. He's not living in the park, or writing me letters in crayon. How crazy could he really be? In the interest of open-mindedness, we booked him.

That was probably a mistake. Talking about 9-11 is a lot like discussing someone else's religion: You can do it, but you've got to tread carefully. Most of the time, it's best to stick to platitudes and move on. The subject is still too raw for debate, particularly here in the New York area. (The little town where I live lost six people on September 11th; the town next door lost more than 20.) Professor Jones wasn't up to the job. If you saw last night's show, you know what an uncomfortable six minutes it was. If not, I'll summarize: Jones was almost totally incapable of explaining his own ideas. By the end of the interview I understood no more about his hypothesis than when it began. He was an epically bad guest.

Yet - and here's the interesting part - he seemed to connect with a huge number of viewers. Some who e-mailed were offended that Jones would dare question the official version of 9-11. Some were confused by what he was trying to say. But the overwhelming majority wrote to thank me for my "courage" in putting him on, and to complain that we didn't give him more time to explain the conspiracy.

In other words, a lot of people seem to think it's possible that the U.S. government had a hand in bringing down the World Trade Center buildings.

Ponder that for a second: The U.S. government killed more than 3,000 of its own citizens. For no obvious reason. Then lied about it. Then invaded two other countries, killing thousands of their citizens as punishment for a crime they didn't commit.

If you really thought this - or even considered it a possibility - how could you continue to live here? You couldn't. You'd leave the United States on the next available flight and not come back. You'd have no choice. Continuing to pay taxes to a government capable of something so evil would make you complicit in the crime.

So of course most of the people who wrote to say they think the government might have been behind 9-11 don't really think the government might have been behind 9-11. For whatever reason, they just like to say so. Which as far as I'm concerned makes them phony and irresponsible.

Incidentally, we still have an open mind here on the Situation, even after Professor Stephen Jones. So if evidence ever does arise that the government lied substantially about what happened on September 11th, we'll be on it immediately. I promise.
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 12:44 PM
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19. Fucker Carlson does it again-
Edited on Wed Nov-16-05 12:46 PM by Al-CIAda
"If you really thought this - or even considered it a possibility - how could you continue to live here? You couldn't. You'd leave the United States on the next available flight and not come back. You'd have no choice. Continuing to pay taxes to a government capable of something so evil would make you complicit in the crime.

So of course most of the people who wrote to say they think the government might have been behind 9-11 don't really think the government might have been behind 9-11. For whatever reason, they just like to say so. Which as far as I'm concerned makes them phony and irresponsible."


What a willfully ignorant dumbass. Also notice how he gives himself an 'out', to not bring the subject up ever again.
:silly: :crazy: :silly:
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petgoat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 02:59 PM
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21. I've seen some loopy straw man arguments in my time
but that one of Tucker's about takes the cake. "You're wrong because
you don't even believe what you're saying."

I guess Tucker can't conceive of the idea that somebody might stay in
this country to try to do something about derailing the Bush regime,
that somebody might believe leaving now would be irresponisble--and
pointless, because if we don't fight the Bushcists here and now we'll be
fighting them in Canada in ten years after they invade to seize the oil
and mineral reserves and shut down the free Canadian news media.

Canada has the second largest oil reserves (after Saudi Arabia) on the
planet if you count their oil sands, and the Chinese do--they may invest
$1.2 billion in a pipeline to bring the oil to the sea.

http://www.energybulletin.net/3806.html
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chat_noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-16-05 02:24 PM
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20. Tucker, ever hear of cui bono? (you putz)

"Ponder that for a second: The U.S. government killed more than 3,000 of its own citizens. For no obvious reason. Then lied about it. Then invaded two other countries, killing thousands of their citizens as punishment for a crime they didn't commit."




Tucker@msnbc.com

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