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spooked911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 10:46 AM
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Why not Bushco incompetence on top of 9/11 being an inside job?
It has come up on this board before that the reason many people do not think 9/11 was an inside job was that the Bush administration was simply incompetent, and they just screwed up and let the attacks happen by "mistake".

But why can't it be that 9/11 was an inside job AND that the Bush administration is incompetent? These are hardly mutually exclusive things-- particularly if 9/11 was run by people not directly IN the Bush administration, i.e. cabinet members and people who work in the white house. In fact, I think it relatively unlikely that any of the major players in the Bush administration had much of a direct hand 9/11.

Bushco incompetence may have played into not detecting signs that the government was ready to stage a synthetic terror attack. But incompetence hardly rules out that 9/11 was "an inside job".
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pox americana Donating Member (622 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 11:31 AM
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1. I think they're exclusive.
Maybe Powell didn't know, maybe Condi didn't know, but everybody else knew enough to pack Shrub off to Florida and Shrub knew enough to not bat an eye when he "saw" the first plane on TV. The buck still stops in the oval office.
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janedoe Donating Member (540 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 02:45 PM
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2. Incompetence?
What is the case for incompetence?

I think we've all seen children who, when asked to perform a task asks, "can you show me?" getting the other person to do the task. (e.g. their daily chores) The child who breaks dishes every time he's asked to wash dishes will likely be excused from having to wash dishes anymore. How about the Sgt. Shultz (from Hogan's Heroes) response of, "I know nothing," to avoid responsibility. How about the graduate assistant who doesn't want to do much work? He makes sure to screw up whatever task he's asked to do, breaking lab equipment, so that the professor will find it easier to do the student's work, himself, than to ask the student to do it again.

The "Incompetence" excuse is a powerful tool. And, perhaps it's even a part of human nature. It allows criminals to avoid being held accountable.

Merely claiming "incompetence" is no proof for incompetence. Anyone who is truly incompetent should be relieved of their position, immediately. Any official wishing to claim their "incompetence" as an excuse for 9-11 should be removed from office, immediately. By stating this, they are saying they are too incompetent to hold their current position.

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spooked911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 06:24 PM
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3. Yeah, it is also funny that the people on this board who blame 9/11
on Bushco incompetence, seem to have the least interest in doing anything about it-- as far as I can tell, and even though it was crminal incompetence.
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DrDebug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 07:02 PM
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4. Criminal incompetence is almost LIHOP
Edited on Sat Nov-12-05 07:05 PM by DrDebug
And neglecting to protect 3000 people is criminal. Either way I still believe in MIHOP, but if Bush gets impeached for criminal negliance with regards to September 11 will be a dream come true IMHO.


In his conduct while President of the United States, George Walker Bush, in violation of his constitutional oath faithfully to execute the office of President of the United States and, to the best of his ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States, and in disregard of his constitutional duties as Commander-in-Chief of the armed forces of the United States and to take care that the laws be faithfully executed, willfully, knowingly and without lawful cause or excuse made false, misleading and deceitful statements to the 9/11 Commission regarding evidence concerning the events which happened on September 11th, 2001 and refused to testify under oath.

In doing this, George Walker Bush has brought disrepute upon the Presidency, has undermined the integrity of his office, has betrayed his trust as President and has acted in a manner subversive of constitutional government and the rule of law and justice, to the manifest injury of the people of the people of the United States.

Wherefore, by such conduct, George Walker Bush warrants impeachment and trial, removal from office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any office of honor, trust or profit under the United States.
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spooked911 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 08:24 AM
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5. what is that quote from?
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DrDebug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-13-05 10:03 AM
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6. The Impeachment of George Bush post at the Research forum
I kinda reworded it a little for the occassion ;)

After all there is all this talk about the Iraq War, but this one came prior and has been more or less forgotten. And I'm sure we can find a couple or a dozen of impeachable offences in the handling of 9/11
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